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Re:USPTO likely to adopt 'peer-to-patent' (Feb 2010) by Vivtek on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @08:05PM (#1785508)
If it's difficult to derive and produce, you're not likely to need patent protection. Patenting a large hadron collider would be money and thought wasted - it's a unique undertaking and people will come to you to use it anyway.

The bleeping 1-click patent, though, God, it's enough to make my head explode if I think too much about that being patented. An utter perversion of the original intent of the patent system.

Re:USPTO likely to adopt 'peer-to-patent' (Feb 2010) by SkyMarshal on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @08:22PM (#1785532)
Yeah, Amazon 1-click was the public start of the insanity. Peer-to-Patent formalization just can't come fast enough, it's a great idea.

And under this framework, difficult to derive implies a need for patent protection, in order to prevent one entity from piggybacking off the derivation work and investment of another. But difficult to implement implies a lack of need for patent protection due to an implementation moat/barrier. Combine the two, and it gets into gray areas.

I used the LHC as an extreme example, but I can imagine other less extreme examples of #4 where the patentability is not so clear. Say, quantum processors - lots of time and research is going into deriving them, and they certainly won't be easy or cheap to produce, but the payoff may mitigate the implementation/production cost and be particularly attractive to some company looking to piggyback off the derivation work/expense of another.