Re:Toyota Investing $500M in Uber in Driverless Car Pact
by nopinsight on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @01:24AM
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How long would changing infrastructure and cars to better support self-driving take? Many cars will continue to be on the road for many years. What are the costs of adapting all of them?
IF that really happens, it would take at least a decade and Waymo's lead from network effects, more mature tech, more self-driving data, etc would be enormous by then.
Re:Toyota Investing $500M in Uber in Driverless Car Pact
by Someone on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @12:36PM
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A few weeks or so, for the first stretches of road. Self-driving cars can be useful even if limited to limited stretches of road (for example, many people would pay for the ability to read a book or play a video game in the 30 minutes they spend on the highway to work, even if that initially were the only stretch of road where their car were autonomous), and such roads could be made off limits to older cars.
And cost? Not that large, compared to the cost of building roads.
Also, I don’t think Waymo is guaranteed to be the first to reach fully autonomous driving. What I know of their approach (which is fairly little, but wat does anybody outside Waymo know for sure there?), to me, seems they are building not cars that are autonomous, but networked. That has advantages (if one car notices a bump in the road, one riding the same road 10 minutes later can slow down), but also has the disadvantages that their software may depend too much on always having that network knowledge available. That may leave space for a competitor to grow in regions where roads barely exist.
Waymo also spends a lot on things that, in a few years, autonomous cars may not need not do at all.
For example, countries that want to speed up adoption of autonomous cars may make detecting traffic signs and traffic lights easier (e.g. by superimposing a high-frequency signal on LED traffic lights or by giving cars read access to a city’s traffic light infrastructure), make la e detection easier (e.g. by embedding cat eyes in the center of lanes) or require cars to better signal their intentions. If that happens, a lot of the work Waymo does on detecting all kinds of ‘static’ infrastructure becomes worth less.