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Re:From GNU social to Mastodon by crooked-v on Sunday August 26, 2018 @07:43PM (#17848541)
> Generally don't like AJAX, it's JS and XML, and in the latter case Twitter services don't require Stylesheets or XLS as it's called -- without -- XML is bloated and creates metadata for sale. In addition to AJAX allowing Orwellian advertisement influence.

...what?

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Re:From GNU social to Mastodon by ifur on Sunday August 26, 2018 @07:54PM (#17848580)
In addition to tagging data with XML, I wont go into the misguided use of it in configuration files as its not really quicker creating checks using XML and XLS as a programmer in the "zone" :)

Point is that albeit nice, there is no need for something like this to even be in a browser. But by using AJAX it kind of have to be. In addition to advertisers being able to know due to Javascript that the user is present. And since the data is tagged arbitrarily in XML in addition to hashtags and the like, it's a lot less hit and miss for suggestions and advertisement.

For example getting flooded with bad things about people working or the US state just because they're in the vicinity of Trump to either reinforce or encourage guilt by association. After you've made a Trump pun for additional effect.

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Re:From GNU social to Mastodon by crooked-v on Sunday August 26, 2018 @08:13PM (#17848639)
What are you even talking about? Modern web apps don't even use XML anymore, barring a few outliers.
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Re:From GNU social to Mastodon by ifur on Monday August 27, 2018 @06:37AM (#17850579)
"Ajax (also AJAX /ˈeɪdʒæks/; short for "Asynchronous JavaScript And XML")"

Is this wrong? Only worked with HPC and mostly hardware-software layer.

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Re:From GNU social to Mastodon by valtism on Monday August 27, 2018 @12:33AM (#17849444)
I think you have a misunderstanding of what AJAX is. I have no idea what you are getting at with the political rambling about metadata and Trump.
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Re:From GNU social to Mastodon by ifur on Monday August 27, 2018 @06:39AM (#17850581)
Perhaps, but I know the implications of javascript. This allows mouse and keyboard events from the browser and is the most insecure language known.

What concerns Trump is merely that this technically allows political manipulation by having a short and cheap route to be able to do just that.

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Re:From GNU social to Mastodon by krapp on Monday August 27, 2018 @06:41AM (#17850590)
>and is the most insecure language known.

Hyperbolic nonsense. Javascript couldn't even aspire to be as insecure as C.

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Re:From GNU social to Mastodon by ifur on Monday August 27, 2018 @06:54AM (#17850628)
>Hyperbolic nonsense. Javascript couldn't even aspire to be as insecure as C.

If that's hyperbole, I'm in stable orbit around earth.

https://deadliestwebattacks.com/2013/01/22/know-your-javascr...

https://www.cnet.com/news/faq-javascript-insecurities/

Wannabe "fiddlers" love JS as everything works.

"They should peruse their Web site for cross-site scripting flaws and fix those."

Every site is now cross-site with FB and Google, even using them as JS service providers. It has shot security that inherently dead.

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