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Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by ax0n on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @04:54PM (#1784905)
I predict this thing lasts no more than 2 weeks before someone finds a way to break the "unbreakable"
Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by krschultz on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @05:38PM (#1785067)
Seems to me like you are inviting trouble with a name like that.
Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by dekomote on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @07:01PM (#1785345)
Even so, this would sell like butter. Can't you hear CEOs masturbating over this?
Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by ax0n on Wednesday October 13, 2010 @08:41AM (#1786878)
Unfortunately, yes.

PHB: "We need to get this in here! It's UNBREAKABLE!" IT Guy: "Sir, I assure you, it's breakable." PHB: "That's not what the shiny pamphlet says." IT Guy: Facepalm

Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by zdw on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @05:01PM (#1784948)
Basically, it's a more-current version of the Linux kernel added to their distro (which is a clone of RHEL5).

Surprise surprise... the newer kernel has more performance optimizations and is somewhat faster/featureful.

There are a few new features - see here for more on one of the data integrity ones:

http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/6919-About-this-data-integr...

Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by nailer on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @05:27PM (#1785037)
Yep. And RHEL MRG already includes a 2.6.32 kernel on top of regular RHEL 5. This probably even uses the same .config file.
Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by recampbell on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @06:46PM (#1785302)
So they have a two pronged approach:

1. Encourage customers to adopt this kernel to run Oracle workloads. Saying it's the only "recommended" kernel for Oracle software helps greatly. Oh and it's 75% faster.

"The Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel is now the only Linux kernel Oracle recommends for use with Oracle software."

2. Still "support" Red Hat's older kernel for other ISV workloads (really Red Hat is supporting it anyway).

"Oracle Linux continues to include Oracle’s existing Red Hat Compatible Kernel. Customers can choose to run the Red Hat Compatible Kernel if they prefer strict Red Hat compatibility over a system optimized to run Oracle and other enterprise software."

Unbreakable Linux didn't really present any huge advantages before. Now it does. Why wouldn't you choose it now?

Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by hvs on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @05:26PM (#1785036)
Can't the other distros (and the kernel developers) just take these patches and apply them upstream if they are so wonderful? I'm not sure how having patches to a GPL'ed kernel gives you a competitive advantage..
Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by recampbell on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @06:49PM (#1785311)
RHEL doesn't follow mainline, so Oracle will almost always have a more modern kernel. As another commenter pointed out, most of the improvments are just from this one point.
Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by sliverstorm on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @06:01PM (#1785162)
That sure sounds like biting the hand that feeds you. When you are (essentially) a re-distributor of RHEL5, why on earth would you bash on RHEL5!?
Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by recampbell on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @06:48PM (#1785307)
Because they compete with Red Hat and want to steal their customers. And now they can claim they have a superior product because they are using a modern kernel. Red Hat needs to release RHEL 6 ASAP.
Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by fleitz on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @07:08PM (#1785356)
To paraphrase some brand of beer, the difference is breakability.

It's nonsense and exactly what branding is for, a linux kernel is a commodity with a price near zero, in order to differentiate a commodity product you need to brand it.

Branding is about perceived differences and having the consumer identify with your brand. Not that you are repackaging the same goods as your competitor, anyone who knows that is already lost to your campaign and as such is irrelevant.

Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by foobarbazetc on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @09:04PM (#1785623)
If anyone's interested with PostgreSQL tests on this kernel: TPS is 20% lower than the stock RHEL 2.6.18-194.11.4.el5 kernel.
Re:Oracle Linux - Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by dekomote on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @07:01PM (#1785343)
I wanted to start flaming oracle for hurting the IT all around, but somehow, I lost my words. My response to this would be a solid facepalm.