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Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by bobthepanda on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:25PM (#17846810)
I mean, what advantage does it have over gold?

Advantages of gold vs. Bitcoin:

- gold is pretty easy to find, not that hard to buy for the average consumer; BTC is anything but

- gold is physical in form and securing it is not hard; BTC is not physical, exchanges get hacked with losses to accounts, in the event of a natural disaster or some event where power generation and internet is lost you lose access to BTC. (Someone can come break in and loot your gold, but people could also do that with your BTC wallet credentials, and if people are doing that you have worse things to worry about)

- gold at least has some kind of floor value, since it does have uses other than a currency store; the same is not true for BTC

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by deevolution on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:31PM (#17846842)
Maybe its a generational thing, but i have no clue how i would go about buying/trading gold and i dont think anyone in my friend group does either. Bitcoin is far more accessible.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by bobthepanda on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:45PM (#17846911)
You can literally go to a gold dealer shop; it's like forex for gold. Even in my moderately sized American city there are twenty that show up in Google Maps within a twenty minute drive. And you buy gold and it's physically in your possession; verifying it is easy, and the best part is you can verify it at some other gold dealer if you're super paranoid.

With BTC, you have to find a trusted exchange and a trusted wallet. The average consumer doesn't really know anything beyond a google search and the first two results.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by lisper on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:52PM (#17846949)
> verifying it is easy

Actually, it's not. It's nearly impossible to non-destructively distinguish gold from tungsten wrapped in gold.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by zaarn on Monday August 27, 2018 @06:20AM (#17850521)
Actually, not that hard. The speed of sound in tungsten is easily twice that of gold, hitting it with a hammer and analyzing the response on the other hand will easily tell you that it's tungsten or gold. In theory, a smartphone app could do it.

You can also test shear forces on the bar, a test you can perform easily at the bank itself (or any of the other material forces tests really). Those do usually require a bit of machinery.

Lastly, you can measure electric resistance. A gold bar will have a different resistance than a tungsten bar, especially if you compare a frequency sweep AC resistance vs DC resistance (if there is a difference, which should be about 20nOhm/m vs 50nOhm/m for Gold/Tungsten, you know the material has a core that is different from the outside).

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by jcranmer on Monday August 27, 2018 @08:43AM (#17851082)
> Lastly, you can measure electric resistance. A gold bar will have a different resistance than a tungsten bar, especially if you compare a frequency sweep AC resistance vs DC resistance (if there is a difference, which should be about 20nOhm/m vs 50nOhm/m for Gold/Tungsten, you know the material has a core that is different from the outside).

Electric current mostly travels on the surface of a material. Gold-plated tungsten might not have sufficiently different resistance from pure gold, if the plating is thick enough.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by zaarn on Monday August 27, 2018 @08:51AM (#17851130)
This is only the case in AC (skin effect). DC penetrates the entire conductor.

The higher the frequency the less you penetrate the material (self-induction in the material forces the electrons outwards).

This enables you to effectively do a sweep of material composition by increasing frequency and measuring the resistance. In theory you could even tell if the core was not conductive at all (due to the resistance not changing despite lower frequency).

So even if the plating was thick, you would be able to tell because the resistance curve begins to change at lower frequencies due to Tungsten having a higher resistance.

If your device is really accurate you could even measure the rough area of the core since skin effect is proportional to the square of the resistivity.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by cc439 on Sunday August 26, 2018 @03:13PM (#17847335)
That's why it makes senss to only buy gold cast in a thin shape (like a coin). It's much harder to cast in any meaningfully large tungsten core and it significantly raises the likelihood of that fake core being discovered as one can verify the authenticity of the gold piece by scraping away a millimeter or two of gold using basic hand tools.

Considering how expensive gold is per ounce, it's not like any of us will be buying it by the bar.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by willio58 on Sunday August 26, 2018 @09:19PM (#17848855)
Maybe not those massive bars, but if we’re talking about being in a country where you can’t trust the government at all with the currency, wouldn’t you want to store most of your savings in gold or something similar? So just thousands of coins I guess? Arr me matey
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by dragontamer on Monday August 27, 2018 @08:40AM (#17851069)
> where you can’t trust the government at all with the currency

Executive Order 6102.

If you're in a country where you can't trust the government, you lost. The government can take away your gold, your government can take away your bitcoins.

If "the government has become the enemy" is a problem, then you've got bigger problems at hand.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by raziel2701 on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:36PM (#17847168)
Any SEM with an EDS system will tell you non-destructively if you have tungsten wrapped in gold. X-Ray diffractometry would also do the same. Rutherford Backscattering spectrometry too. All three of these techniques are non-destructive and the first two are quite common to find at universities.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by lisper on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:38PM (#17847175)
I guess you and I have different intuitions about the meaning of the word "easy".
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by detaro on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:37PM (#17847173)
That's quite a leap from "you can verify at some other gold dealer" though.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by evgen on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:57PM (#17847263)
It is also a very large leap from “let’s just drill it at random locations” that an actual gold dealer will try first if they suspect something like this. The drill bit not going through the bar like butter at the location will probably be the first tip-off.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by keymone on Monday August 27, 2018 @04:52AM (#17850246)
meanwhile verifying bitcoin is trivial. hackernews is the one demographic i was hoping would understand that. has something changed?
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by cc439 on Sunday August 26, 2018 @03:19PM (#17847376)
Do you have any first hand experience with buying gold from local dealers? I've never really looked into it but the vast majority of gold dealers in my city are also pawn shops geared toward purchasing gold rather than selling it. While I'm unsure as to their exact pricing model for selling gold, the way in which pawn shops are known to buy precious metals leads me to believe I'd be paying significantly more than whatever the current spot price is if I was to buy through them.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by adventured on Sunday August 26, 2018 @09:32PM (#17848884)
The safest way to buy physical gold is directly from a mint like the US or Canadian mint (obviously assuming you trust the government/mint in question).

The next best is to use a trusted dealer and buy the mint products that have verifiable serial numbers. For example:

https://www.apmex.com/product/98353/1-oz-gold-bar-royal-cana...

Canadian Mint 1oz bar, at a small mark-up over the price of gold. Comes sealed and has a serial number.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by cc439 on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @04:28PM (#17862553)
Now that is an actually reasonable markup. I guess my only concern there would be shipping, which can be insured but gets a bit pricey when you're insuring $1,200. Thanks for the link!
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by dragontamer on Monday August 27, 2018 @08:43AM (#17851080)
American Eagle Gold coins are US-Government issued, serial-number stamped official Gold coins of the US Government.

Created by the US Mint, you have strong assurances that you are recieving in fact, 91.67% gold / 22 karat (an alloy, because pure gold is too soft for the typical consumer).

If you do want 99.99% Gold / 24 karat, the US Mint also makes the Buffalo coin. But that's usually harder to store.

American Eagle coins are super easy to obtain and trade. Just go to any gold shop and ask for an American Eagle gold coin.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by coryfklein on Monday August 27, 2018 @01:18PM (#17852814)
1 oz gold spot is $1210 per ounce [1]

1 oz American Eagle coin direct from the mint? $1,490 [2]

That's a 23% "transaction fee". You'll get much much lower buying gold (or bitcoin) from somebody else.

[1] http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html

[2] https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2018-one-ounce-gol...

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by dragontamer on Monday August 27, 2018 @06:57PM (#17855207)
You certainly don't buy gold coins directly from the mint.

You buy them at only a bit higher than spot price from 3rd party distributors. For example: https://www.apmex.com/product/1/1-oz-gold-american-eagle-bu-...

American Eagle coins have a slight premium, due to their guarentee by the USA Mint itself. If you don't care about serial numbers and want to just have bullion, you can buy other gold coins. But American Eagles are great because they are enforced by the powers of the US Government itself. So you get a bit of security (and therefore, the price of the coin is slightly higher compared to gold).

But not much higher. Really, it isn't. Checkout 3rd party sites like apmex or your local gold shop if you don't believe me.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by hakfoo on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @03:01AM (#17866274)
The Gold Eagles sold direct to consumers by the mint are either "proofs" -- struck with a special finish, or a special minting targeted towards collectors. You're paying a premium for the "W" mint-mark and fancy box.

They also make a non-collector version and sell them to bullion dealers, who then mark them up modestly for retail. To get access to them direct, you're probably buying hundreds of coins at a time.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by alienplutonic on Sunday August 26, 2018 @05:12PM (#17847946)
There are currency exchangers in every major city who trade BTC for paper cash, same as gold dealers.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by yread on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:55PM (#17846965)
Friend of mine had like 3 kgs of silver. He bought it at UBS - first wandering in asking about buying silver got him some strange looks (he looks like a programmer) but when he said how much silver he needs clerks became more friendly. He stored it in an old plastic supermarket bag in his clothes closet.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by rrdharan on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:39PM (#17846880)
It’s pretty easy to just buy $GLD with any brokerage account if you just want gold exposure. If you don’t trust the ETFs to honor your claims when the apocalypse arrives things are harder of course.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by charlesdm on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:09PM (#17847039)
I'm sure when the apocalypse arrives, we'll have bigger problems...
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by jonny_eh on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:54PM (#17847248)
And when the apocalypse arrives, how do we transfer our Bitcoin?
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by smsm42 on Sunday August 26, 2018 @07:30PM (#17848500)
You are but one google search away from discovering the local coin shop - if you live in US at least. Other countries may be different, in some it would indeed be a challenge. Bitcoin is accessible as far as you trust middlemen, having local bitcoin setup with a secure wallet is not something average consumer would feel comfortable with, last time I checked.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by kenneth on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:49PM (#17846928)
You can buy bullion at close to spot prices on eBay from trusted sellers (APMEX or Kitco or JM Bullion)
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by another-cuppa on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:25PM (#17847120)
You just Google for "buy gold" just like you would for anything else.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by collyw on Monday August 27, 2018 @09:50AM (#17851469)
I would say the same about bitcoin.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by deevolution on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:01PM (#17847004)
Bitcoin advantage: easily and instantly divisible. Gold not so much.

Bitcoin advantage: weighs nothing, highly transportable. Gold not so much.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by qeternity on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:06PM (#17847022)
> Bitcoin advantage: easily and instantly divisible. Gold not so much.

Not so important for a store of value.

> Bitcoin advantage: weighs nothing, highly transportable. Gold not so much.

Yet requires an order of magnitude more skill and overhead to handle.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by alienplutonic on Sunday August 26, 2018 @05:13PM (#17847953)
Hardware wallets are stupid simple to use for BTC.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by qeternity on Monday August 27, 2018 @10:37AM (#17851738)
Stupid simple for you maybe. The average person in the developed world would disagree, ignoring people in a third world country like Venezuela (the example that prompted this comment thread) who likely don't even have a computer.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by keymone on Monday August 27, 2018 @04:54AM (#17850253)
(bangs head on the wall)

> what advantage does it have over gold?

can you point me to words "store", "of" and "value" in the above question?

> order of magnitude more skill and overhead to handle

only if you assume handling gold means dropping the gold bar in your basement and never touching it again?

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by dragontamer on Monday August 27, 2018 @08:46AM (#17851099)
> can you point me to words "store", "of" and "value" in the above question?

Bitcoin is up the past couple of weeks. So inevitably, the BTC community will be calling it a store of value.

I think the general community is just reacting to the moving goalposts. When BTC's value is up, its a store of value. When its value is down, BTC's value is its transactions.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by keymone on Monday August 27, 2018 @08:53AM (#17851140)
the question was what advantages bitcoin has over gold. one of the answers was divisibility. that answer was rejected by GP's comment because "irrelevant to store of value aspect" i'm just pointing out that this reason for rejection of a valid argument is plain dumb.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by qeternity on Monday August 27, 2018 @10:40AM (#17851756)
Gold bar? The example that prompted this thread was Venezuela. The average Venezuelan can maybe afford some gold jewelry that has been passed down through the family, much less an entire gold ingot.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by comboy on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:40PM (#17846883)
In this context, it's much harder to protect gold from the government (if it decides it wants to take it away).

Plus buying stuff online is more tricky.

I could envision alternative reality though, where there are companies specializing in providing tokens that have 100% coverage in gold. You would need to trust them and their software, but some trust is always involved. The problem is those would be an easy target with physical holdings (so the problem of the gov comes back, but they could choose under which gov to operate). In that scenario, if the problem gets big enough the gov will take care of it, no matter where on the planet is that gold. In the case of Bitcoin though, while temporarily it can be hampered very easily, it's quite impossible to make it completely go away.

The biggest point for gold IMO which you didn't mention, since all value comes from people and their beliefs, is thousands of years vs 10 years.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by bunderbunder on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:07PM (#17847032)
> In this context, it's much harder to protect gold from the government (if it decides it wants to take it away).

If you're to the point where some authority is forcefully taking your assets away, I'd much rather have physical possession of gold than Bitcoin. You can bury gold somewhere and pretend you don't have it. Bitcoin, on the other hand, takes place on a public ledger, so they can, in theory, always track it down. And a thug who's willing to take your gold at gunpoint will be equally happy to take your wallet keys at gunpoint.

In terms of @#*%ing up the economy, governments are just as able to trash the Bitcoin economy as they were to trash the gold economy 100 years ago. Using exactly the same methods, too.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by alienplutonic on Sunday August 26, 2018 @05:17PM (#17847977)
It's much more practical to obfuscate ownership of BTC (buy it pseudononymously with paper cash, send it through a mixer or XMR) than it is to bury gold.

The buried gold is hard to access, not portable, and you would have to be damn sure some hobo didn't see you bury it.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by bobthepanda on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:50PM (#17846937)
I mean, if the government is trying to take gold away, they're probably not that far from trying to take BTC away. And governments are more than willing to do things like cut off external internet access, power, and all the other necessary infrastructure for BTC. Gold has less infrastructure requirement than BTC; and if your government is willing to beat you bloody for your gold, they're probably also willing to beat you bloody for your BTC wallet credentials.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by GW150914 on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:45PM (#17846913)
If the government wants your gold or private key, they’re going to get it. How long are you going to hold out against their proverbial $5 rubber hose? Solitary confinement? Mundane legal threats?
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by comboy on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:51PM (#17846941)
How does it know you have one? You can use brain wallet[1], you can use trezor with multiple passphrases. You can give up some of your bitcoins and if you manage your wallets properly then no one can prove you have some more.

1. Don't use brain wallets, unless you really understand security

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by wruza on Sunday August 26, 2018 @03:02PM (#17847280)
It doesn’t work that way. You spend a week in a cold dirty room with insects, hungry, isolated, misinformed with worst fears and perspectives. Occasionally you speak with an interrogator who can bet on the time of your mental breakdown by simply looking at you for a minute. This is a well-known procedure that doesn’t even require a knowledge of what should be revealed. Trained people can stand it if stakes are high (military high, not your extra BTC), but don’t overestimate yourself. You will break down not even being touched by a finger.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by comboy on Sunday August 26, 2018 @05:52PM (#17848142)
Gee, that got pretty dark. We are just comparing options here. Physical things are easier to get from you. It's hard to argue otherwise since information can be represented as a physical thing, but it gives you more options. You can split your private key between 5 friends you trust and make 3 of 5 required (+ password why not) and in general get pretty creative.

If you are spending a week in a cold dirty room etc., and especially if some gov got you there, I don't think it matters much how guilty you are or what wealth do you have. They own you.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by GW150914 on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:29PM (#17847138)
Because at some point you have to pay taxes, or break the law. They nailed Al Capone, and you’re not Al Capone. I suppose you could buy it in secret and never liquidate it, spend it, or declare it... and therefore never benefit from it. I guess that’s a “win” in some books? Otherwise the answer to your question is pretty obvious, and ends with you in prison.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by comboy on Sunday August 26, 2018 @03:20PM (#17847377)
I don't see how taxes are in any way relevant to this discussion. Definitely do pay your taxes. I was answering to a specific question, the bad guy here can just as well be somebody who is trying to rob you.

But if it helps you, think about some other government, not necessarily the US one. Do you think they all do the right thing? Should you or should you not be able to help your starving family in Venezuela?

They really can't all be doing "the right thing" because they have wars between each other. And those are legal in their books. But you probably want to play along however imperfect rules your government sets, that is until you want to escape the country and you don't want it to be your government anymore. Because e.g. you don't feel like killing every Jew you know and that just became the law.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by dragontamer on Monday August 27, 2018 @08:48AM (#17851111)
The US Government has the ability to extract money from you legally. It holds the power of taxation.

If the US Government, tomorrow, declares a 100% tax on Bitcoin, they can legally posess all of your BTC or... make you a criminal.

See Executive Order 6102 for historical precedent. FDR declared Gold to be illegal and took it from most Americans. At which point, you either gave up your gold, or became a gold smuggler. The US functioned as such until Nixon removed the executive order.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by basementcat on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:31PM (#17847145)
I’m not concerned about rubber hoses on me as much as I’m concerned about threats to my friends and family. I wouldn’t hold out very long at all.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by dullpastry on Sunday August 26, 2018 @05:34PM (#17848065)
https://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/07/29/vendor-xanaxking-anti-...

> To date, agents have seized over $200,000 in cash and $25,000 in Bitcoins from Defendant’s operation.

> …It is critical to note, however, that this figure represents a small fraction of the proceeds that were flowing to Defendant. The cash seized came only from funds that Defendant had on hand on May 28, 2014, and from an earlier limited seizure of packages. As discussed above, Defendant’s operation was high-volume and lucrative, and agents do not know where Defendant has hidden the rest of the money.

> While agents made a limited seizure of only $25,000 in Bitcoins from Defendant, it is possible that he has access to significantly greater quantities of this currency.

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2018/01/11/darknet-vendor-dutchki...

> The ex-boyfriend may have earned even more money, but he told the court that he had forgotten the passwords needed to access one of his laptops.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/manchester-s...

> The value of their sales was at least £812,000, the court heard, but their profits are likely to have grown exponentially due to the rise in the value of bitcoin over the period. Prosecutors have so far been unable to trace Assaf’s bitcoin.

There are hundreds of other cases in which they didn't seize 100% of the suspect's BTC.

The cases in which they do seize 100% get more media attention, but they are actually in the minority.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by DINKDINK on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:13PM (#17847065)
>where power generation and internet is lost you lose access to BTC

You don't need the internet nor the power grid to use bitcoin.

To use bitcoin via the Lightning Network minimally, you need a CPU and a method to transmit data.

CPU: phone

Transmit Data: Bluetooth, QR code/camera.

Electricity for your phone: Cheap emergency solar panel

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by dragontamer on Monday August 27, 2018 @08:50AM (#17851126)
> You don't need the internet nor the power grid to use bitcoin.

> To use bitcoin via the Lightning Network minimally, you need a CPU and a method to transmit data.

How do you verify that your opposing party actually has bitcoins to send to you?

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by surfacedetail on Monday August 27, 2018 @02:41AM (#17849816)
The Lightning Network? Really?
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by topranks on Monday August 27, 2018 @04:02AM (#17850080)
It’ll save us all - and work perfectly without the internet too!
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by antidesitter on Sunday August 26, 2018 @03:06PM (#17847302)
How are gold bars easier to secure and transport than private keys?
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by sneak on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:34PM (#17846854)
Securing bitcoin is much easier than securing gold. Gold can be confiscated easily; bitcoin is much harder, especially with things like brainkeys.

Additionally, gold does not have a built in global teleporter. Bitcoin does. I can send basically an unlimited quantity of value to anyone with internet access in minutes with bitcoin; the same is not possible with gold.

If bitcoin is only useful for global remittance and bypassing the long-distance-money-transfer cartels of the world, it is an insanely valuable tool. My estimation is that it is valuable for at least that, and probably several other things as well (e.g. online payments for physical goods that are subject to high chargeback risk, et c).

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by another-cuppa on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:24PM (#17847113)
> I mean, what advantage does it have over gold?

It's electronic. That is the only advantage, but it's a huge one considering that virtually all (yes, virtually all) money transfers are done electronically today.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by CyberDildonics on Sunday August 26, 2018 @02:01PM (#17847003)
The fact that you can use it electronically.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by guiomie on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:26PM (#17846817)
Can't figure out if this is sarcasm...
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by guiomie on Monday August 27, 2018 @12:11AM (#17849387)
I'm surprised about the downvotes, for me the following arugments can't be taken seriously?

"gold is pretty easy to find, not that hard to buy for the average consumer; BTC is anything" ... You can buy BTC with your credit card no KYC needed or you can mine it yourself. Are you gonna start mining gold? If you want to buy to gold you need a trading account, or you order gold and it gets delivered to you, not as simple as buying BTC at all.

"gold is physical in form and securing it is not hard" ... You need a safe and/or insurance, much more complicated then using a password/cold wallet.

"gold at least has some kind of floor value" ... The floor value is really small if you remove the speculative aspect of gold.