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Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by Scaevolus on Sunday August 26, 2018 @12:37PM (#17846614)
More than just power, you have depreciating assets (mining chips, servers, buildings) that are effectively losing money constantly. Operating them at a small loss is better than leaving them idle for a huge loss.

You see similar economics when farmers sell crops at a net loss.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by anbende on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:09PM (#17846751)
This is only relevant if your clearing bit coins above the cost of the electricity. If not, you’re losing more turning them on than off.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by slavik81 on Sunday August 26, 2018 @03:18PM (#17847367)
In economic terms, suppliers will continue producing so long as the sale price is greater the marginal cost of production. The average cost is irrelevant in the short run because it includes sunk costs.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by throwaway123156 on Monday August 27, 2018 @09:27AM (#17851357)
The comment you were responding to was about electricity, which is clearly a highly linearly correlated marginal cost. I am not sure why you're bringing up average costs at all.

And the comment you replied to did not even mention the other marginal costs that Bitcoin faces (employee costs, land rental, networking costs, etc).

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by slavik81 on Friday August 31, 2018 @02:29AM (#17883384)
I was restating what they were getting at in a way that could be easily traced back to widely studied economic theories. It was an elaboration, not a disagreement.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by salawat on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:09PM (#17846747)
Note: Farming in that manner regularly is not sustainable. Also, at a certain loss point, you might as well compost the crop back into the soil to contribute to next year's crop as fertilizer. That stuff is expensive.

Hell, the entire economy makes no guarantees at being sustainable in the long run. The unsustainability period just shows all indications of being longer than a human lifespan, thereby making it easy for people to write off as not their problem.

Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by luckydata on Sunday August 26, 2018 @12:39PM (#17846622)
So slightly negative margins but making it up in volume?
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by jandrese on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:02PM (#17846724)
Think of it more as cutting your losses. You've already lost the money, so even if you can't make it all back you can make back part of it by selling the product at a loss.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by gowld on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:32PM (#17846844)
No, it's positive margins offseting negative fixed costs.
Re:Bitcoin's Use in Commerce Keeps Falling by joejerryronnie on Sunday August 26, 2018 @01:17PM (#17846782)
That's how you lock up your Series A. For the next round of funding you'll need to upgrade to "large negative margins but hockey stick volume". The Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund will accept nothing less.