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Re:Plastic Straws Aren’t the Problem by 7952 on Saturday August 25, 2018 @11:41AM (#17841238)
Do you think we can really avoid making the environment a moral issue? Science has never been enough to pursuade people. That approach is not working. It is political and moral in exactly the same way as other contentious issues and that means that people will argue about it. I want people to virtue signal about the environment. That is better than indifference.
Re:Plastic Straws Aren’t the Problem by marcosdumay on Saturday August 25, 2018 @01:39PM (#17841698)
> Do you think we can really avoid making the environment a moral issue?

No, and I don't see where the GP claims that. It's inherently moral.

We can avoid making the stability of our civilization a divisible issue. It takes some real work to push people against this, and stuff like forbidding people from using harmless stuff they are used to is part of that work.

Re:Plastic Straws Aren’t the Problem by stephengillie on Saturday August 25, 2018 @01:01PM (#17841556)
Give people a soap box, and they'll stand over you and lecture you.