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Re:Plastic Straws Aren’t the Problem by austincheney on Saturday August 25, 2018 @10:15AM (#17840842)
Message not received.

Plastic particles are now becoming as common and widespread as bacteria. If they really want to push the message on this then they would outlaw use of plastics in consumer packaging and thereby emphasize use of cardboard and paperboard products. The wood fibers used to make paper and cardboard are not harmful to animals, biodegrade quickly, and are far more environmentally renewable.

Re:Plastic Straws Aren’t the Problem by ams6110 on Saturday August 25, 2018 @10:35AM (#17840922)
Not sure if you remember but a few decades ago the message was the opposite. Paper and cardboard packaging, grocery bags, etc. were environmentally damaging, plastic was seen as far friendlier (no trees cut down), and much more recyclable.
Re:Plastic Straws Aren’t the Problem by dwd on Saturday August 25, 2018 @12:08PM (#17841343)
Still true - paper is bad from a resource usage point of view where plastic is a pollutant. The problem is weighing up the macro and micro effects over short and long term time frames, and the only real solution is consume less.

Plastics use less resources to produce, but pose a problem in that they will always stay plastic. Paper, cotton, etc use too much water and are often combined with plastic anyway to make them more durable, hygenic and increase shelf life of the packaging.

There's one issue with reusable grocery bags no one seems to want to mention. You have to wash them! More water, detergent or worse spray them with potentially carcinogenic anti-bacterials.

Re:Plastic Straws Aren’t the Problem by austincheney on Saturday August 25, 2018 @12:02PM (#17841314)
Apparently recycability isn't the conversation or the problem, because if it were California wouldn't be trying to outlaw plastic straws.
Re:Plastic Straws Aren’t the Problem by SamUK96 on Saturday August 25, 2018 @10:41AM (#17840956)
To obtain plastic, you need oil, which often requires removal of entire swathes of the biosphere. Funny how just one step can fool people like that.