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Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by jancsika on Thursday August 23, 2018 @04:15PM (#17830346)
> To me, the fundamental idea of the event is that we’ve become divorced from the act of creation and civic participation due to being enmeshed in a highly commodified, transactional society and that it’s worth trying to address that. Most people can’t use a torque-driver or recognize a turnbuckle.

Why is a physical space needed for this? Wouldn't it be immensely more efficient to have a forum where you teach everyone how to type <ctrl-shift-c> in their browser to inflate the work shed hidden there?

Throwing a web animation to slowly rotate Google's search page around for eternity seems a way more practical expression of the reach of the power of human creativity than giving random people torque-drivers and turnbuckles.

It's also less of a risk if those people happen to be high at the time.

Also, there's no practical attack where highway patrol can show up and throttle the forum traffic to generate quick cash by arresting all the stoners.

Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by egypturnash on Thursday August 23, 2018 @04:44PM (#17830552)
> Throwing a web animation to slowly rotate Google's search page around for eternity seems a way more practical expression of the reach of the power of human creativity than giving random people torque-drivers and turnbuckles.

I seriously cannot tell if you are trolling or not. "Helping to build a sculpture-cum-shelter out in the desert" is worlds away from "making someone else's webpage rotate".

And making a physical thing is a very different feeling from making a digital thing. I make comics and put them online; I also print them, and there is a lot more satisfaction in having a book I can put on my shelf and say "I made this" than a webpage I can point to. The book will probably survive me longer than the webpage, which vanishes up to a year after the account set up to auto-renew the domain and hosting runs out of money.

> Also, there's no practical attack where highway patrol can show up and throttle the forum traffic to generate quick cash by arresting all the stoners.

True dat. There's also a buttload of smaller Burns in various places that haven't gotten big enough to be as much of a tempting target.

Re:The Vanishing Idealism of Burning Man by komali2 on Thursday August 23, 2018 @04:26PM (#17830419)
>Why is a physical space needed for this? Wouldn't it be [programming]?

Why does art have to be programming art? Why do they have to be learning about computers?

>They can look down their noses at the idealism of those who thought to try to make something for once, instead of leaving the important job of art to those who know better, who have the right ideals, the right politics, the right message.

Isn't this just "looking down your nose" at someone who wants to build sheds instead of messing about in chrome dev tools?