Re:Intel Publishes Microcode Patches, No Benchmarking or Com...
by 0x8BADF00D on Thursday August 23, 2018 @12:26AM
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This is censorship, plain and simple. They cannot command everyone to abridge their speech, even if their license terms say so. It is unenforceable and illegal.
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Re:Intel Publishes Microcode Patches, No Benchmarking or Com...
by lathiat on Thursday August 23, 2018 @12:31AM
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It's also crazy to my mind. The reality is these various issues are all having potentially significant impacts on performance -- and it's not just the microcode related changes, but also the kernel changes, etc. It is kind of ridiculous to require everyone to do their own testing and not allow basic numbers to be published.
I also find it fascinating in that in theory your BIOS update can include these changes.. does this anti benchmark license apply if you reflash a new BIOS or just buy a new motherboard with the new bios and then use the same type of CPU to compare?
Makes me want to look at some BIOS and motherboard EULAs now...
Re:Intel Publishes Microcode Patches, No Benchmarking or Com...
by SmellyGeekBoy on Thursday August 23, 2018 @05:02AM
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This is a very good point. What about replacing a motherboard (but not CPU) due to motherboard failure or just to get some extra feature or other? If the new BIOS includes the microcode updates are you legally forbidden from benchmarking your old CPU?
Re:Intel Publishes Microcode Patches, No Benchmarking or Com...
by catamorphismic on Thursday August 23, 2018 @09:29AM
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Very good point. I'd like to add that this is not just kind of ridiculous, it is just plain ridiculous. Also, we have the right to publish any benchmark numbers, not just basic numbers. This isn't a time for weak wording.
Re:Intel Publishes Microcode Patches, No Benchmarking or Com...
by stock_toaster on Thursday August 23, 2018 @01:39AM
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They also basically sold a defective part, and to fix it you have to agree to something additional post-sale. That is pretty damn questionable.
Re:Intel Publishes Microcode Patches, No Benchmarking or Com...
by TomMckenny on Thursday August 23, 2018 @01:09AM
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Given that the dissenting justice for "TransAm Trucking v. Administrative Review Board" is now on the supreme court, I'm thinking contracts will indeed supersede protections (unless every possible permutation is explicitly enumerated in legislation as if forever battling the "literal genie").
Re:Intel Publishes Microcode Patches, No Benchmarking or Com...
by p1necone on Thursday August 23, 2018 @12:45AM
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I mean, they can probably say whatever they want, but this is not a legal thing - all they can do is refuse to sell you more hardware for violating their contract.
Re:Intel Publishes Microcode Patches, No Benchmarking or Com...
by phyller on Thursday August 23, 2018 @12:54AM
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NDA's are legal right? This is like a permanent NDA. I wonder if people can refuse to download the microcode because of the license, and then sue Intel for the vulnerability. I'm thinking probably not.
Might want to get your next chips from AMD.