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Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by siruncledrew on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @02:38PM (#17820866)
I don't know why, but for some reason the juxtaposition of traditional, brick-and-mortar brand images with tech blogs about building modern application technologies is amusing to me. It's seeing two completely different sides of the same organization. There's 0 condescending sentiment behind it, it's just like "wow, that was unexpected."
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by wuliwong on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:50PM (#17821522)
I'm in Atlanta and have had a few discussions with people at Chik-fil-A (CFA) about joining on of their teams. I have a good friend that just moved from Intel to CFA working on business analytics. It seems like a really great place to work. And yes, whenever I mention to someone that I might be working on machine learning problems at CFA I always get a puzzled look in return. :)
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by client4 on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @04:58PM (#17822128)
Their food court is amazing. You can have steamed salmon and a Spicy Chicken sandwich at the same time. Also free to your family.
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by electricslpnsld on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @04:21PM (#17821815)
> machine learning problems at CFA

This is prime deep fried learning pun territory...

Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by stochastic_monk on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @04:29PM (#17821882)
Alex Smola already nailed this in 2015 with deep-fried convnets, which replaces fully connected layers with fft-accelerated algorithms.
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @04:43PM (#17821995)
CFA has long meant control flow analysis in PL.
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by RandallBrown on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @02:50PM (#17820967)
I worked for Nordstrom for several years and whenever I describe their technology department to another developer they're always pretty shocked. It was pretty shocking to me when I started there too.
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by Aloha on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @02:59PM (#17821037)
I'm curious about Nordstrom, I know nothing of their infrastructure.
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by theossuary on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:04PM (#17821084)
I was surprised too, when I saw their name in the Devops Handbook; apparently they were one of the pioneers of Devops. Talking with a previous employee, it sounds like they really reinvented themselves from an IT department to a little tech oasis within the company.
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by GFischer on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:36PM (#17821386)
You can find some pretty awesome work on "traditional" companies. There are some pretty cutting-edge projects where I work too :) (but way more legacy migrations and boring financial CRUD apps).
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by saalweachter on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @05:33PM (#17822393)
I think one thing that doesn't always occur to programmers who haven't experienced is that really boring problems can be really interesting to work on.

(And really interesting problems can be really boring to work on, and really interesting companies can have a lot of cruft and technical debt under the hood.)

Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by RandallBrown on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:22PM (#17821239)
Their tech stack is similar to what you'd expect from any large tech company. I can't speak much to the server side of things (I worked on the iOS app) but I know they had everything ranging from older monolithic .NET apps to Node and Go micro services.

Their GitHub page (https://github.com/Nordstrom) doesn't have much in the way of internal projects, but it has lots of forks that will give you an idea of some of the tools they used.

Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by tomnipotent on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @04:39PM (#17821946)
Nordstrom also does polymorphic React with server-side rendering via .NET [0]. I've always been impressed with this part of their stack.

[0] https://libraries.io/github/Nordstrom/React.NET

Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by voltagex_ on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @07:45PM (#17823273)
Latest commit e56c9be on 24 Apr 2015 - wonder if it's still in use internally?
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by rmason on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:35PM (#17821372)
Actually they're a bit of a pioneer in Serverless computing:

https://serverless.com/blog/rob-gruhl-serverless-event-sourc...

Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by caniszczyk on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:29PM (#17821312)
We did a case study on Nordstrom recently in the CNCF, check it out: https://www.cncf.io/case-study-nordstrom/

Here's a recent talk from KubeCon/CloudNativeCon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=xZO9nx6GBu0

Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by tomatotomato37 on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:42PM (#17821429)
To add to the curiosity, how is Nordstrom doing anyway, compared to other mall-type retail? I'm wondering if this forward-thinking in tech is allowing them to successfully fight "new" ecommerce such as Amazon
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by RandallBrown on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @06:38PM (#17822873)
As far as retail companies go, they’re doing well. Stock isn’t doing great, but as far as I know they’re still quite profitable.

Being forward thinking in tech has helped them a lot with regards to being able to move pretty fast on new things. At the same time, a website as old as theirs has a LOT of legacy.

Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by Kagerjay on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @05:23PM (#17822318)
Nordstrom is doing pretty well for their online stores. I have to order things there for family every so often
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by arthurcolle on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:48PM (#17821493)
What's interesting to think about is how, in the lead up to the dotcom bubble/bust, I would think execs at tons of traditional retail/brick and mortar/consumer brands would have probably been like shit shit and then put more IT-focused organizational architecture components in place, which probably lead to many interesting technical solutions to many of the problems they faced (if they did it the right way). It would be cool to see different branching that lead to different technical solutions for common problems.

Unfortunately, as this was before the OSS boom that came later, we probably will never see these solutions out in the open.

Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by 616c on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @05:49PM (#17822519)
Recently at work someone used JS tooling from their Github org and I was like what!? Found a lot of good stuff there.

Seeing down thread they were big DevOps adopters changes my mind of how I saw them as stodgy. Too bad I dislike pretty much all they sell!

Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by atwebb on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @03:22PM (#17821233)
Ha, y'all were an AWS/clickstream example at the Nashville Analytics Summit yesterday, granted it wasn't a new deck so maybe you've heard that before.
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by cosmie on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @07:28PM (#17823176)
Which session was that? The Kinesis/Lambda one?
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by atwebb on Thursday August 23, 2018 @11:03AM (#17827814)
The 4 hour workshop/hello world for AWS, it was in the intro deck on why you should be doing analysis and what not. Probably preaching to the choir for most of the room.
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by mountainofdeath on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @04:53PM (#17822091)
It's almost like being down the street from 2+ major technology companies might have rubbed off on them...
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by selimthegrim on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @04:14PM (#17821745)
Word of mouth tells me they are underpaying people for Seattle-area CoL
Re:Edge Computing at Chick-fil-A by uncreativebrian on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @10:10PM (#17823979)
Most retailers don't have the challenges of scale that we have and I think thats why its weird to see tech innovation in a restaurant. That said, we need it to scale and are grateful to the k8s community for making what we are working to do possible!