Can you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? We're trying to avoid that here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

You are replying to that out of context and without responding to his point. He's saying that no competition is bad, so no matter what OS you are using, it'll be worse due to the lack of competition from Windows.

> it'll be worse due to the lack of competition from Windows.

Okay, let's imagine a world where for some crazy reason Linux is the only OS. It is already it's own competition because it's open source. If someone doesn't like something about it, they can just fork it. You can't do that with proprietary OS's.

So I don't see how losing windows is problem due to lack of competition.

The whole reason Linux Desktop is in the state it is today is trying to compete with Windows.

Just like some of the Linux Desktop's compete with OSX.

It's exactly like Apple creating iOS, before iOS, we didn't have fancy colour touch phones that were visually appealing and usable. We had... Windows Mobile with a stylus that was great for work but sucked for the consumer.

Because of Apple / iOS we /had/ Windows Phone, we have Android, we've had attempts from other companies to try be competitive in this area.

There are features of Linux Desktop they probably would never have existed if they hadn't been created on Windows or OSX. JUST like there are features on Windows that wouldn't have existed if they hadn't been created on Linux or OSX.

Competition is good for all of us, regardless if you use Windows, or Linux, or OSX.

My desktop ran Enlightenment 0.15 around 1999. It was a hundred times more beautiful and usable than anything Windows could offer at the time (including stardock/windowblinds). It was less usable for non technical people, but it was usable and the horrible IE lock-in has not yet happened at that point.

Competition is good, but it is entirely speculation whether windows promoted or stalled progress by virtue of being a monopoly; my vote is “stalled”.

Competition is always good. I agree with that.

But you don't need Windows or OSX for competition.

There are already multiple DE's and WM's for Linux that are already competing with each other.

> There are features of Linux Desktop they probably would never have existed if they hadn't been created on Windows or OSX.

I doubt that. In an alternate universe where windows and OSX never existed, I'm pretty sure someone somewhere would have thought up those features and implemented them.

Because you are the only person in the world, right? Come on, the year is 2018 and bashing MS for the sake of it is not cool anymore.

My point is killing off windows is not going to hurt everybody. And yes, I'm not the only person in the world. There are many others who don't need or use windows. So I just thought that was a bizarre statement to make.