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Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by jaytaylor on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @08:46PM (#17815232)
When I first read this headline I had a flashback to the late 90's / early 2000's. It was a time when the term "T3" unambiguously meant only one thing: a blazing fast, very expensive, dedicated network connection!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-carrier

Then a few years later the even fatter optical pipes came along - OC1 and OC3 lines.

My, how times change! ..Well, some things do. If you want a T3 line, they're still available, and today will cost you in the neighborhood of $3,000USD/month (down from $10-15K/month around Y2K).

What a bargain :)

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+does+a+t3+line+cost

Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by jedberg on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @11:01PM (#17815935)
Out of curiosity, is there any reason to get a T3 today? I assume anywhere that it is available you can also get DSL for two orders of magnitude less.
Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by patrickg_zill on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @11:05PM (#17815957)
No, unless you want to break it out to a lot of voice lines, 30 T1's to be exact.

Just about anywhere a T3 is you can get ethernet at the same or higher speed for less money.

Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by willejs on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @06:49AM (#17817736)
It is 30 T1s in theory, but the physical connectivity is RJ-48 for T1 and x2 coaxial for T3. Both can be channelized into voice, or un-channelized for data...
Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by patrickg_zill on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @02:15PM (#17820658)
Yes, exactly. I was trying to say that a person would be better served using ethernet if they wanted data. But some older phone systems still work well with tdm style T1 and T3...
Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by exikyut on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @10:20PM (#17815757)
Wow, 45-90Mbps for $3k-$6k/mo.
Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by MichaelApproved on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @11:00PM (#17815933)
It's not only about the throughput, it's also about the SLA and sustainable throughput.
Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by chillidoor on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @12:26PM (#17819864)
When I started my IT career in South Africa the internet situation was pretty horrendous. ADSL/Broadband speeds were 384kbps and you had hard bandwidth caps of ~$7 per gigabyte of traffic on top of your line rental.

Companies and universities could, however, cough up for expensive alternatives, such as a diginet line which the ISP I worked for at the time offered. These guaranteed uptime (which was very appealing as ADSL outages were very common) but you paid a hell of a lot of money per 64kbps of uncapped bandwidth. You were looking at something like $400-$500 a month per 64k for the cheapest support package. And we weren't even the most expensive. There was a law firm that was paying something like $30k a month for their pimped out 2048kbps line.

Thank God things have improved dramatically there in the last decade (at least in terms of internet speeds).

Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by exikyut on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @08:49PM (#17823616)
Wow, so all this was happening circa 2006?
Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by chillidoor on Thursday August 23, 2018 @05:30AM (#17825824)
And before. Most people were still on dialup until I think maybe 2010-2012. Wireless ISPs became really popular during all of this because they could offer better service, better uptime, better speeds, and QOS for things like VOIP. Bandwidth and data usage management became so important that ISPs were also selling managed proxy servers and on-premise email servers to businesses because it was cheaper than having to pay for additional 1GB data caps.

The two primary causes for this situation was that the sole wireline telecomms company in SA and there were only 2 undersea data cables connecting SA (and I think Africa) to the rest of the world. Telkom was semi-private and state-owned so they had no incentive to improve things and also had to pay through the nose for access to the two undersea cables.

However, things started to improve when more undersea cables got laid down (lowering bandwidth prices and improving international bandwidth) and the government started lowering entry barriers so that Telkom stopped being such a monopoly.

Re:New T3 Instances – Burstable, Cost-Effective Performance by newman314 on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @09:03PM (#17815336)
I had the same exact thought except OC192 popped into my head =)