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Re:Russian hackers targeted U.S. conservative think-tanks, s... by sbmthakur on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @01:37PM (#17811852)
> Here you describe NATO as a hostile force but it's clear that the countries joining NATO were wise to do so as a defense against a hostile Russia.

Considering that St. Petersburg is now well within NATO's artillery range, I don't see how NATO is not hostile from Russia's perspective.

Re:Russian hackers targeted U.S. conservative think-tanks, s... by sequence7 on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @01:51PM (#17812004)
St Petersburg is well within NATO artillery range from Finland is your argument that Russia should annex Finland or that Finland shoud not be a member of NATO?
Re:Russian hackers targeted U.S. conservative think-tanks, s... by codedokode on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @03:01PM (#17812679)
USSR already did this in 1939: annexed a part of Finland [1] to move the border further from the city.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Re:Russian hackers targeted U.S. conservative think-tanks, s... by sbmthakur on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @03:28PM (#17812886)
No. I meant the Baltics. "Well within" was a wrong phrase. Apologies for that.

Finland has nothing to do it. My point was that it's not that difficult for Russians to consider NATO a hostile force even if the West calls it a defensive force. NATO already outguns Russia on many parameters. If there is a full-scale war and China supports NATO, then it's pretty much game for Russia.

Re:Russian hackers targeted U.S. conservative think-tanks, s... by c-smile on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @02:39PM (#17812471)
Finland is not a NATO member. For that very reason and due to old agreement with USSR.
Re:Russian hackers targeted U.S. conservative think-tanks, s... by sequence7 on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @03:22PM (#17812839)
You are very right, I apologise for being very wrong. I would delete my comment but I think it's best to leave it.