Re:Details of horrific first voyages in transatlantic slave ...
by trhway on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:34PM
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>This last century ... example of ideologies that allowed otherwise perfectly normal, God-fearing, salt of the earth folk to turn into horror-machines of rape, mutilation and slaughter.
well, just off the top of the head - today we have Yemen, Rahingya, Syria - the places where large number of innocent people/civilians suffer and die as direct result of other, reasonably normal, people just doing their job of inflicting that suffering and death in the name of the cause that is presented as a pretty good cause in all these cases - fighting terrorism.
Re:Details of horrific first voyages in transatlantic slave ...
by roadnottaken on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:28PM
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Pinker’s “Better Angels of our Nature” is a masterwork on the subject. It’s also a terrific read and will change your view of history and make you happy to be alive in the present!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Better_Angels_of_Our_Nat...
Re:Details of horrific first voyages in transatlantic slave ...
by BadassFractal on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @01:16AM
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I've been meaning to read it, however the criticism from historians about it has made me somewhat uncomfortable about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Better_Angels_of_Our_Natur...
Is there anything conclusive about how cherry-picked the numbers in the book are?
This last century has presented a rich buffet of historical options to choose from when looking for examples of ideologies that allowed otherwise perfectly normal, God-fearing, salt of the earth folk to turn into horror-machines of rape, mutilation and slaughter. Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Africa, Asia, you name it. Maybe even a relative or a next door neighbor in our very own US of A, sent to the wrong Vietnamese village at the wrong time. That seed of pure horror is in all of us, and it's ready to rear its ugly head when the conditions are right.
I don't think as a species we've quite figured out how to suppress it.