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Re:Cisco Said to Be Cited for Bias Against U.S. Workers by Spooky23 on Monday August 20, 2018 @07:47PM (#17805268)
The real secret is that this is the only thing that keeps tech onshore.

No H1? No problem, move the function offshore.

Re:Cisco Said to Be Cited for Bias Against U.S. Workers by dangero on Monday August 20, 2018 @07:56PM (#17805364)
That's not absolutist true, but this is the type of study I would like the government to invest in with my tax dollars. We should know how often this is the outcome.
Re:Cisco Said to Be Cited for Bias Against U.S. Workers by flukus on Monday August 20, 2018 @09:04PM (#17805857)
> The real secret is that this is the only thing that keeps tech onshore.

If this was the only thing it would have gone offshore more than a decade ago. The reason is hasn't gone offshore is because the results are terrible for a number of reasons, with precious few success stories. It is a tried and failed technique to cut software costs.

Re:Cisco Said to Be Cited for Bias Against U.S. Workers by mavelikara on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @03:35AM (#17807779)
Remember, the engineers who work on the top-tier SV firms will also be going offshore. With that talent pool abroad, many more offshore projects than now will be successful.

Also, even now India exports $100B+ worth of software services to US. It is not as if every project offshored is producing "terrible results".

Re:Cisco Said to Be Cited for Bias Against U.S. Workers by Spooky23 on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @10:17AM (#17809782)
You're mistaking outsourcing with offshoring.

Paying maximum viable cost for minimum viable output is the type of outsourcing that you're thinking of. India, Eastern Europe, etc is full of smart people capable of doing pretty much anything. Being located in California doesn't give you super-powers.

Re:Cisco Said to Be Cited for Bias Against U.S. Workers by ganfortran on Monday August 20, 2018 @08:20PM (#17805553)
Already happened. My company has sent notice to us that international hired employees are preferentially located to Canada and other sites instead of US, since it is difficult to get a visa here.

People are selfish, so I don't blame them for want to close the door and keep the outsiders outside so they can have a bigger share of the pie.

But don't expect to see that happen either, companies nowadays are much more powerful than individuals and they are very nimble, they will go to places where cost is lower, this won't change a bit, it is in their blood.

So to immigrants coming to US, don't really put much hope in spending decades waiting to get permit to not in living in fear of throwing out. Doesn't worth it. And the resentment towards immigrants is worsening everyday, unless you happen to have certain skin tone. So earn your bucks, and save more, when the time comes take your life and skill elsewhere, life is too short to just wait in vain and hope for the best, act swiftly and you will be happier ;)