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Re:Apple Is Planning a New Low-Cost MacBook, Pro-Focused Mac... by wlesieutre on Monday August 20, 2018 @04:30PM (#17803665)
Why would it not get smaller? Intel makes their NUCs the size that they are because that's the size of the components these days.

It's not like Apple's going to make the new Mac Mini three times the size it needs to be and stuff a bunch of 3.5" HDD bays in for people who want to use it as a file server.

Smaller with fewer components and everything soldered/glued together is a cheap way to build smaller and cheaper at the cost or repairability, and Apple clearly doesn't care about repairability. They've said that the Mac Pro redesign will be more modular, but I don't see them doing that here.

Re:Apple Is Planning a New Low-Cost MacBook, Pro-Focused Mac... by gurkendoktor on Monday August 20, 2018 @04:47PM (#17803803)
Agreed about repairability. What we don't know is whether Apple cares about noise. Powerful laptops and Intel's high-end NUCs suffer from fan noise under load[1]. One of the advantages of non-tiny desktop machines is that they can afford better cooling solutions.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/intelnuc/comments/7ga2q9/skull_cany...

Re:Apple Is Planning a New Low-Cost MacBook, Pro-Focused Mac... by wlesieutre on Monday August 20, 2018 @05:08PM (#17803991)
I'd bet on the cooling looking something like the Apple TV 4K's does:

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+TV+4K+Teardown/97511#s...

At least since it's not a handheld touchscreen device, you can take it apart and replace stuff. It even uses Torx screws! But there's not a lot of discrete parts here, just the power supply,the motherboard, and the fan.

Once upon a time the Mac Minis would have let you replace the RAM or disk, but I'd expect it to look like a similar similar power supply + motherboard + fan in a box.

Re:Apple Is Planning a New Low-Cost MacBook, Pro-Focused Mac... by saagarjha on Monday August 20, 2018 @05:21PM (#17804099)
The Apple TV that came before it didn’t have a fan. I’m more inclined to think this was an exception rather than the rule.
Re:Apple Is Planning a New Low-Cost MacBook, Pro-Focused Mac... by wlesieutre on Monday August 20, 2018 @06:07PM (#17804443)
Right, but we’re including a potential “pro-focused” Mini which will quite possibly use the same quad core processors available in the 13” MBP. Can you cool that passively in a small case?

Minis a few years ago had a quad core processor option and a lot of people have been disappointed by its absence, making the current generation objectively worse than previous ones. I don’t think they’ll pass up the option to put it back in, IIRC it was something to do with their choice of Intel’s processor families that got it dropped in the first place.