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Re:Vietnam Going Solar After Nuclear Power Plants Shelved by adrianN on Monday August 20, 2018 @06:00AM (#17798726)
Actually I'd expect developing nations to be the first in adopting a clean energy grid. They have massively rising demand, so they're building new power plants all the time and don't have vested interests trying to milk every penny out of old coal plants. They also benefit from technological advances that countries with aging power infrastructure can't take advantage of. It's not like they're forced to re-live the industrial revolution like it happened in Europe. It's perfectly possible to leapfrog to carbon neutral solutions.
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Re:Vietnam Going Solar After Nuclear Power Plants Shelved by jabl on Monday August 20, 2018 @07:06AM (#17799002)
Developing nations are generally poor compared to developed countries (duh). So they might not be able to afford energy sources with high upfront costs like nuclear, solar, or wind.

If you ignore externalities, coal is likely the cheapest, unfortunately.

This is exactly what DIDN'T happen with, say, telecom networks. Developing countries skipped directly to mobile telecom, allowing them to save a lot of money by avoiding the upfront cost of building a wired telecom infrastructure.

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Re:Vietnam Going Solar After Nuclear Power Plants Shelved by adventured on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:29AM (#17800748)
I agree with you that poorer developing nations will want to generally avoid high upfront costs to new energy (if they can). Doesn't building new coal plants present high upfront cost just the same?
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Re:Vietnam Going Solar After Nuclear Power Plants Shelved by greglindahl on Monday August 20, 2018 @11:53AM (#17800946)
Yes. A modern, efficient coal power plant has to be large and takes a while to build. Solar and wind can be built incrementally.
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Re:Vietnam Going Solar After Nuclear Power Plants Shelved by A2017U1 on Monday August 20, 2018 @01:23PM (#17801834)
The upfront costs of wind or solar are about the same as building a coal or gas turbine power plant and have far less ongoing costs.

Really not sure why people parrot these falsehoods that are easily proven wrong.

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/generatorcosts/#total1

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Re:Vietnam Going Solar After Nuclear Power Plants Shelved by corerius on Monday August 20, 2018 @12:40PM (#17801417)
That's an interesting point. It's rather like the leapfrog to cellphones without intermediate steps.

No matter what tech is used, it'll be obsolete at some point.

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Re:Vietnam Going Solar After Nuclear Power Plants Shelved by beat on Monday August 20, 2018 @10:49AM (#17800360)
This could be kind of like how a lot of developing countries have excellent cellular phone networks, having mostly skipped the expensive commitment to wire.
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Re:Vietnam Going Solar After Nuclear Power Plants Shelved by akuji1993 on Monday August 20, 2018 @06:23AM (#17798828)
You're absolutely correct, I didn't really think about that.
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