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Re:Why Do Keynote Speakers Keep Suggesting That Improving Se... by kbenson on Friday August 17, 2018 @08:55PM (#17786336)
> The way to fix market failure is well understood, though; regulation

No, the way to fix market failure it to increase the aspects that cause markets to function and reduce aspects that cause market dysfunction, and if that doesn't do the trick, then you fall back to regulation.

Markets change in small ways constantly which results in large changes over time, and even regulation that fits perfectly initially is doomed to affect the market negatively given enough time.

When it's important enough, we use regulation to ensure minimal levels some attribute are maintained for the benefit of everyone, such as privacy, safety. Regulation might end up being a good response for a part of the problem, but so could actually holding some companies liable for negligence. I suspect some combination might be best.

I think if you approach the problem of market failure with the idea the the only and best fix is regulation you're likely to just punt problems down the road a decade or two (if you're lucky).

Re:Why Do Keynote Speakers Keep Suggesting That Improving Se... by nickpsecurity on Friday August 17, 2018 @09:39PM (#17786453)
The DO-178B and now DO-178C regulations appear to be doing well. A whole ecosystem of quality-supporting tools, certified components, and QA experts have formed. Likewise, most or all of the early, secure products were designed for the TCSEC regulations. Although it had issues, the parts that increased assurance worked fine.

So, given TCSEC half worked and DO-178C currently works, I'd say regulation is the answer on this stuff. It just can't be too prescriptive. The situation would vastly improve if just a few things like checking inputs, avoiding unsafe code where possible, fuzzing, and so on were required.

And we also sue their ass in court for not doing this easy, provably-useful stuff. That's to get stuff done when regulators aren't along with using legal damages to force them to take action.