The point that was being made is China/Russia perhaps is still not there with all their covert operation guns out and blazing. If situation does arise (hot conflict or otherwise) then one "shudders to think" what would be the implications.

That's I meant too,even in WWII communication was key, imagine today when all is computer controlled. China and Russia might be in the system already and waiting

I think it's pretty safe to say, while these games are always cat and mouse, that globally cyber defense is not approached with the same determination as cyber offence, and perhaps it can't be with resources in the same order.

I think personally it's pretty likely that they're in our systems, and we're in theirs, for almost any major nation - ally or not.

It's just MAD all over again.

Except accountability in Mutually Assured Destruction was always crystal clear.

Today, there is much more (potential) room for confusion and false flag attacks.

Relevant pop culture reference:

https://www.imdb.com/videoplayer/vi4020353817?playlistId=tt5...