Re:Companies Shouldn’t Be Accountable Only to Shareholders
by ionised on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @10:56AM
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Whenever I see someone use the word 'leftist' unironically in their opening sentence I just assume that what is coming next is a torrent of ideological rhetoric with nothing of substance to back it up.
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Re:Companies Shouldn’t Be Accountable Only to Shareholders
by jakoblorz on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @11:16AM
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The discussion about this proposal will be interesting: The groups which call people "leftist" will for sure argue that the economy will be badly impacted by these changes, as they always argue with.
Germany in contrast has a rather staggering economical performance for being so "leftist", which reduces the power of the argument. Those groups will then have serious issues argumenting at all (which arguments of the same magnitude are left?).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codetermination_in_Germany#Int...
I assume that a civilised discussion can still be held in the US.
Re:Companies Shouldn’t Be Accountable Only to Shareholders
by prolikewh0a on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @11:07AM
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It's usually not "leftist" anyway, it's just common sense. Workers should have some representation in their workplace since they DO ALL THE WORK. The business simply cannot exist without the workers.
Inequality declines as Union membership rises[1], aka worker representation.
https://www.epi.org/news/union-membership-declines-inequalit...
Re:Companies Shouldn’t Be Accountable Only to Shareholders
by mamon on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @11:21AM
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Workers have a right to get paid for their work, but that’s pretty much it. They don’t have a right to influence company policies because they do not own it. Asking workers for their opinion is just politeness, but not something company necessarily has to do.
Re:Companies Shouldn’t Be Accountable Only to Shareholders
by genericid on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @11:34AM
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By that logic, a monarch's subjects did not have a right to influence kingdom policies because they did not own it.
Re:Companies Shouldn’t Be Accountable Only to Shareholders
by jlawson on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @12:31PM
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A monarch's subjects don't choose to become subjects and they typically can't leave. Workers can choose from many different employers, or become self employed.
Re:Companies Shouldn’t Be Accountable Only to Shareholders
by genericid on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @12:34PM
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So you support a dictatorship as long as it permits emigration? Not that monarchies actually had anything to do with that, serfdom was abolished in most places long before them.
Re:Companies Shouldn’t Be Accountable Only to Shareholders
by prolikewh0a on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @12:24PM
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Get rid of the workers and what do you have? A failed company. The workers are the most important part and without them the business cannot survive. The most important part of the business should have a say in the business.
Re:Companies Shouldn’t Be Accountable Only to Shareholders
by frockington on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @01:36PM
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You would need to replace the disgruntled opinionated workers with workers who were happy with their job. Its a tiny bit more effort but in the end the result would be the same