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Re:From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007) by Cthulhu_ on Monday August 13, 2018 @09:38AM (#17749942)
I think it wasn't so much serving his country that made him go back and volunteering tbh; nobody should be going to Iraq or even joining the military for that, given how the US has no business in those countries. I do think he's a hero for looking after his other soldiers though, for helping those that took the propaganda and nationalist bait and joined the military - perhaps also because they had no other (career) opportunities.

The military does something weird to people.

Re:From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007) by monkeynotes on Monday August 13, 2018 @10:03AM (#17750132)
The military very much conditions minds into believing the bullshit that is 'glory for your country'. It is just as much bullshit as religious crap like 'glory for Allah' and we need to point this out when we see it.

Dedicating yourself to fight for your country is just as fucked up as fighting for your god. Both ideals are a sham propagated by people who sit comfortably and take much relish in the ego boost that is commanding cannon fodder. Make no mistake, many of these people are legitimate borderline psychopaths who want nothing more than their name in history books.

The same people legislate for the sake of getting their names on a successful bill. They care not for anyone but their crony group and themselves. They bray in parliament like demented asses, and bark and howl in Congress like the pack of wolves they pretend to protect you and I from.

The whole show is a shameful fraud, and it's shame on us for not identifying the lot of them for who they clearly are. We are all heading toward calamity once again, lead by the same psychopathy that has polluted the human condition for thousands and thousands of years. We can all see it coming day by day and yet we think the water isn't yet hot enough to do something about it before we become soup.

Re:From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007) by senorjazz on Monday August 13, 2018 @10:59AM (#17750590)
Best summed up by some angry solider shouting at the crowd to move back "WE'RE HERE FOR YOUR FUCKING FREEDOM NOW BACK UP"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syrv6eygmNY