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Re:Yagni (2015) by stcredzero on Sunday August 12, 2018 @04:35PM (#17746287)
Except for the part where you refactor your code, which by definition shouldn't be changing its behaviour and therefore can't be driven by adding tests to your test suite, where exactly the same design issues will immediately arise.

By comparison to Smalltalk, most environments seem broken to a seasoned Smalltalker. The main refactoring tool in Smalltalk would happily refactor your tests, so you'd just do your refactoring and re-run the tests. No interference with any reasonable implementation of TDD needed at all. You just counted refactoring as writing the tests and then immediately ran the unit tests.

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Re:Yagni (2015) by Silhouette on Sunday August 12, 2018 @06:00PM (#17746654)
Perhaps my analogy wasn't clear. I wasn't really commenting on refactoring. I was arguing against the common claim that you don't need to do much design work if you're using TDD. In reality, most of the same work does still happen, it's just being brushed under the carpet to make the process look simpler and more efficient than it actually is.
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