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Re:USA Temperature: can I sucker you? by martinpw on Sunday August 12, 2018 @03:17PM (#17745935)
What would you propose for a zero value on the Y axis? The only number that actually makes sense is zero Kelvin (since 0C and 0F are just arbitrary numbers). At that scale you will not see anything. But that doesn't mean nothing is happening.

The charts are fine.

Re:USA Temperature: can I sucker you? by Grue3 on Sunday August 12, 2018 @05:45PM (#17746580)
>At that scale you will not see anything. But that doesn't mean nothing is happening.

But then you can't say such things like "red line is rising scary fast", which is another example of manipulative language. With enough Y-axis magnification you can make anything rising or dropping "scary fast".

Re:USA Temperature: can I sucker you? by cfuen71 on Sunday August 12, 2018 @03:24PM (#17745974)
At a 0-100 Celsius scale, or whatever is the equivalent in Fahrenheit, there will be an almost impossible to see increase over the time span of 100 years.

I'm not saying nothing is happening, but those charts are completely deceiving.

Re:USA Temperature: can I sucker you? by kisstheblade on Monday August 13, 2018 @01:35AM (#17748199)
How would you chart your body temperature? Starting with 0 kelvin? Then you could conclude that all is well because you can't spot a 2 degree increase, right?