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Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by gitinstinct on Friday August 10, 2018 @11:31PM (#17738142)
Phoenix. Tons of transplants from SF have moved here already, ASU is nearby, Sky Harbor has tons of flights going to all of the tech hubs in the US, cost of living is affordable and there's a decent amount to do here as well.

We have a tech scene, but I wouldn't consider us a big hub at the moment. Most companies just have support or administrative staff here.

Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by jtreminio on Friday August 10, 2018 @11:44PM (#17738198)
I was just in Phoenix last week after visiting the Grand Canyon.

I can't imagine _why_ someone would move from the 70F of SF to the 115F of Phoenix. Even at midnight it's still over 90*F.

This coming from someone who lives in DFW.

Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by hello_newman on Friday August 10, 2018 @11:57PM (#17738253)
Why someone would move from SF to PHX area? ummm considering the average rent in SF is $3340[0] and the average rent in PHX is $955[1], I cant possibly imagine why someone would want to do that.

Plus PHX is really only that hot May to September. PHX is like other deserts and generally very pleasant outside of the summer with lots of sun, which isn’t something you can always say about SF.

0: https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/ca/sa... 1: https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/az/ph...

Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by jtreminio on Saturday August 11, 2018 @12:03AM (#17738273)
I'm sorry, I must not have been clear enough. I meant, why someone from SF, with perfect weather, would decide to move to Phoenix of all places.

Cheap land can be found in the vast majority of this country, Phoenix just seems like the polar opposite of climate from SF.

Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by mindcrime on Saturday August 11, 2018 @01:35AM (#17738529)
SF is nice, but I wouldn't call the weather there "perfect" by any stretch. Last time I was there it was cold, rainy, and basically miserable. OTOH, there is a lot of great food to be had in SF...
Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by conception on Saturday August 11, 2018 @12:32AM (#17738362)
Wait... SF has perfect weather? I think you are excluding several months of rain and the surprising cold of the bay.
Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by askafriend on Saturday August 11, 2018 @10:13PM (#17742582)
What rain are you talking about? In fact, we could use more rain if anything. I can't even remember the last time it rained.
Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by seanmcdirmid on Saturday August 11, 2018 @12:23AM (#17738337)
Flagstaff might be OK (high desert, not as hot). Los Alamos is in the same boat (with an interesting history as well, supposedly they have some tech startup scene now as they move away from defense).
Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by geggam on Friday August 10, 2018 @11:55PM (#17738242)
Because that is 3 months of the year. The other 9 are perfect weather. Essentially we don't have to shovel snow during our hibernation season
Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by seanmcdirmid on Saturday August 11, 2018 @12:26AM (#17738347)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix,_Arizona#Climate

5 months out of the year the mean is above 80F.

Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by godot on Sunday August 12, 2018 @11:29PM (#17747861)
Not sure why there is an assumption that everybody likes 68F with miserable fog. Some people actually like 80-90F temperature. I do. 90+ is too hot sure, and I get that PHX is 100+ for 3 months. I like to be able to walk outside in a tshirt at night, instead of wearing a down jacket. I live in the Bay area and it's far from perfect weather. I can only live in the East Bay where there's actually summer temperature (80+F outside in the day time now and I love it). Living in SF would be pure misery to me. I would totally consider moving to PHX, but I first have to convince the wife. :)
Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by ohjeez on Saturday August 18, 2018 @10:54AM (#17788725)
I'll take 90 degrees with low humidity over 80 degrees and muggy _any_ day of the week.
Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by aaronbrethorst on Friday August 10, 2018 @11:56PM (#17738249)
Because land is cheap? Not rhetorical, I honestly have no idea.
Re:Ask HN: Cities underserved by tech jobs? by bbg215 on Sunday August 12, 2018 @06:02PM (#17746665)
Phoenix is ripe for a tech explosion but likely has been hindered by the government and it's aversion to incentives.

Perfect weather 70% of the year, summer's are hot but easily escapable due to pools and air conditioning, one of the largest public universities in country, unreal amounts of sunshine, little humidity, huge swaths of available land, low cost of living/rent, little traffic besides rush hour, and its trending blue politically as a result of all the inflow of former residents from CA, OR, etc.

San Diego, Los Angeles, Las Vegas all are with-in a 1 hour flight from Sky Harbor. Massive elevation changes with-in 1+ hour drive. Wine country and Mexico to the south and ski slopes/alpine forests and Grand Canyon/Lake Powell to the north.

Will be a swing state in the next 8 years and is likely to have a education focused Dem Gov over the next 4. A focus on education and incentives to lure more tech will be the key.