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Re:Show HN: A decentralized index of banned users and where ... by SlowRobotAhead on Friday August 10, 2018 @10:19AM (#17733442)
Tom Fitton or JudicialWatch was shadowbanned at Twitter. You go ahead and find the “hate speech” posts.

Candace Owens, a black conservative woman was temporarily banned from twitter for making the same comments NYT’snew editor made but replaced “white” with “Jewish” and all of a sudden twitter decides those are racist. She did it prove a point and twitter played right along.

Those are two examples.

Re:Show HN: A decentralized index of banned users and where ... by pjc50 on Friday August 10, 2018 @10:52AM (#17733748)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/judicial-watch/ those guys?

"Judicial Watch has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, with a “vast majority” of their lawsuits dismissed"

Re:Show HN: A decentralized index of banned users and where ... by SlowRobotAhead on Friday August 10, 2018 @12:39PM (#17734817)
I said find the hate speech. Not does your biased website doesn't approve of them.

JW is one of the only groups out there actually winning lawsuits to disclose information on the 2016 election and FBI mishandling of basically everything.

Sorry, they're real lawyers, in real cases, using actual facts that stand up in a court of law. I can see why your favorite website there doesn't like that.

ALSO... FWIW... My local news paper is EXTREMELY BIASED, and your site lists them as Neutral.

Re:Show HN: A decentralized index of banned users and where ... by sverige on Friday August 10, 2018 @12:30PM (#17734752)
Your source is itself notorious for not being what it claims to be. I would argue that any website that claims to be a fact checker (whether left or right politically) is automatically less trusted, since their entire raison d'etre is to claim the right to declare whether others are biased or not. The reality is that everyone is biased. Claiming to not be so means starting from a false premise.
Re:Show HN: A decentralized index of banned users and where ... by jonathankoren on Friday August 10, 2018 @11:03AM (#17733878)
Honestly, this talk of Twitter “shadowbanning” strikes me as full on conspiracy theory. “I’m shadowbanned! No one can see my tweets!” gets retweeted 10k times. I don’t even follow these people, and it shows up in my TL.

I think this is performance.

Re:Show HN: A decentralized index of banned users and where ... by SlowRobotAhead on Friday August 10, 2018 @12:44PM (#17734867)
Um... You should probably look at how their "Quality Filter" is shaddowbanning without actually removing tweets.

The short version is unless you follow that person already, you won't see them organically in any feeds. They could #JonathonKoren and you won't see it because they are effectively hidden unless you already followed them.

What Twitter is doing is absolutely political censorship.

EDIT: There are tools to detect the "Quality Filter" there is a hidden cam interview with an engineer from Twitter explaining it. Hardly conspiracy theory. I don't know why it doesn't seem to be an issue for you, or anything about your anecdote of not seeing it.

Re:Show HN: A decentralized index of banned users and where ... by jonathankoren on Saturday August 11, 2018 @10:42PM (#17742647)
This doesn’t sound like a shadow ban at all. It’s a term that actually means something.[0] This is just people whining that they don’t have a high enough quality score.

I’d take this a lot more seriously if this wasn’t being peddled by same folks that complain about “conservative purges” when Twitter bans a bunch of obvious bot accounts.

What makes this a conspiracy theory is the assumption of some grand covert political agenda. That’s really really hard to believe. Twitter is infamous for not enforcing their own TOS when it comes to hate speech or even calls for violence.

While I’ve never worked at Twitter, I’ve seen how fringe groups start spreading rumors of dark political agendas when it comes to these sorts of algorithms. It just doesn’t happen. It’s just spreading false outrage for clicks. It’s bullshit sold to people desperate for validation of their unpopular ideas.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning