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Re:Half of the Great Barrier Reef Is Dead by _ph_ on Thursday August 09, 2018 @06:35AM (#17723011)
The very sad thing is, that a lot of progress could be made without any personal sacrifice. Switching electricity production from coal to wind and solar doesn't really involve personal sacrifice. Long term, it should be even way cheaper for the consumer. So why is there so much resistance to an energy change?

Almost the same with cars. Elecrical cars are a thing. And yes, while electric cars are different from ICE vehicles, this is actually a good thing. Why would people line up for Teslas, if they didn't provide the better driving experience? Of course, prices have to come down and so they will with larger production numbers. But switching from ICE to electric might be a noticable switch, but hardly a personal sacrifice either.

We have the ability to reduce our cabon footprint by 90% by just throwing existing technology at the problem. I fail to see why we shouldn't do that.

Re:Half of the Great Barrier Reef Is Dead by bb101 on Thursday August 09, 2018 @09:53AM (#17724157)
The devil is in the details. We can produce the energy but don't have the battery technology to store it beyond a certain timeframe, e.g. efficiently storing the solar energy from summer for use in winter. Lithium ion batteries have about 600 0-100% cycles of life in them. What happens at a plant when their cycles are used up? Energy analyst Gail Tverberg discussed these issues on a Featured Voices podcast: https://www.peakprosperity.com/podcast/113631/gail-tverberg-...
Re:Half of the Great Barrier Reef Is Dead by _ph_ on Thursday August 09, 2018 @10:44AM (#17724601)
But that should not keep us from ramping up solar and wind. These details are important only if we want to go 100% CO2-free. I am not sure that is a requirement, if we can achieve 90% soon enough, that should be fine. And in no case it should stop us going all the way to 90%. What the right answer is to go to 100%, depends on the region. In most regions, solar and wind are good for a seasonal balance. This greatly reduces the need for long-term storage.

If not run 0-100%, lithium ion batteries can have thousands of cycles. For stationary storage one can optimize the chemistry for long-term stability rather than weight and volume. A lithium battery doesn't just fail, rather it continuously uses capacity over the cycles used. So the rated number of cycles marks the point where it has 75% of its capacity left, for storage it can be used far beyond that.

On the grid scale, beyond large batteries, one can of course used pumped water storage - still the most efficient mass grid storage available. If really long-term storage is desired, synthesizing methane could be considered, which can easily be stored and then used to drive high efficient gas power plants.

Re:Half of the Great Barrier Reef Is Dead by vixen99 on Thursday August 09, 2018 @07:51AM (#17723333)
'Switching electricity production from coal to wind and solar doesn't really involve personal sacrifice.'

This is glib assertion. You might explain how the economics of this would be accomplished country by country. Earlier this year the UK was without significant wind power for nine days. Well, in absence of fossil fuel, that would indeed be personal sacrifice - Old Testament style.

Re:Half of the Great Barrier Reef Is Dead by _ph_ on Thursday August 09, 2018 @09:03AM (#17723823)
No one would argue for having no electricity in times of low wind and solar. The short term solution would be to use natural gas power plants to fill the gaps. If they ran only in those situations, the 90% of CO2 reduction could still be achieved. Of course, we need to expand storage solutions and with internationally coupled grids, those times become even shorter, as the weather variations tend to even out.