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Re:China announces 25% tariffs on $16B worth US goods by vbtemp on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:34AM (#17716767)
Of all the nutty, anxiety-inducing and self-destructive things administration is doing right now, this trade war with China leaves me least concerned. In fact I'm curious to see where it leads. Change my mind?
Re:China announces 25% tariffs on $16B worth US goods by tpfour on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:35AM (#17716776)
Re:China announces 25% tariffs on $16B worth US goods by vbtemp on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:38AM (#17716798)
Thanks
Re:China announces 25% tariffs on $16B worth US goods by thinkcontext on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:53AM (#17716933)
It has the potential for the most dramatic long term consequences as it could dramatically speed up China's rise. China's economy is where future growth is, to get access to that growth capital will reallocate itself around these trade barriers to China's advantage if they persist.

Also, part of the reason the US dollar is the chief world trading currency and the US Treasury is considered the world's safest investment is open trade policy. This preferential place in the world financial system gives the US economy major advantages, including low interest rates.

Attacking the entire world at the same time is a really bad plan. The chance of wringing concessions from China would be much greater if the US would make common cause with the EU, Japan, etc. But the opposite is happening, the rest of the world is moving on w/o the US as we saw with TPP and the recent EU / Japan deal. Expect to see things like China start canceling deals w/ Boeing and inking new deals with Airbus.

Finally, there's a military dimension to this. China is raising tariffs on US oil at the same time it is saying it won't respect Trump's sanctions on Iran. Its unlikely anything would happen in the immediate term but if this situation persists its not far fetched to imagine things getting tense.

Re:China announces 25% tariffs on $16B worth US goods by Quarrelsome on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:45AM (#17716853)
do you realise that global tariffs was a strong factor into the build up of the Great Depression? To me, its the most concerning aspect of all of Trump's activity as it has the capacity to strongly influence global events.
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Re:China announces 25% tariffs on $16B worth US goods by p7hwfizeONj on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @12:06PM (#17717058)
Op never said anything about 'lols'. I'm cautious but this is one area where I think the administration might be doing something correctly (but I don't know).

We lost a lot of manufacturing and it should have been OK because we could just move up the value chain to tech. Between the great firewall, restrictive cloud rules, partnership requirements, and IP transfers that hasn't worked out.

I don't know if the policies are best but I agree with the statement that as far as all the administrations policy proposals, this is one example of where I'm willing to take a wait-and-see approach.

Re:China announces 25% tariffs on $16B worth US goods by daenz on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @12:05PM (#17717052)
Why are you assuming they're arguing in bad faith when nothing they've said implies that? I'm interested in a solid answer to his question as well.
Re:China announces 25% tariffs on $16B worth US goods by vbtemp on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @12:04PM (#17717044)
Everyone except you responded with something well-reasoned and interesting. Does that change your mind about your ill-considered and rude response to me here?