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Re:The Largest US Trading Partners All Put Higher Tariffs on... by wpietri on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @10:24AM (#17716205)
In which case, I'd much rather we increased taxes on income and/or wealth to a) help workers move up the value chain, and b) provide a safety net for people who lose out on trade.

A tariff on "cheap shit from Amazon" is a heavily regressive tax, and acts to reduce total delivered value. Whereas taxing the well-off to pay for education and encourage investment increases total delivered value.

Re:The Largest US Trading Partners All Put Higher Tariffs on... by HillaryBriss on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:31AM (#17716746)
I agree with the increasing taxes on the wealth, but as a long time resident of California I've become skeptical of the government's skill and ability to provide a safety net.

In some governments somewhere in the world, these programs are effective. But there's no guarantee they will be well run and well administered.

If a government justifies taxing more heavily to fulfill those functions, it's critically important that the government actually deliver the services effectively. The government's efforts must actually succeed. Otherwise, a lot of voters become skeptical and stop believing the promises.

Re:The Largest US Trading Partners All Put Higher Tariffs on... by gremlinsinc on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @02:13PM (#17718077)
It'd be a bit easier if we cut the pentagon budget by 60% to match other countries of similar size.

UHC would actually save 2 trillion over 10 years (according to a very conservative Koch brothers study).

We need to end money in politics though, there needs to not be easy ways to bribe politicians.... It's becoming a circus, until corruption is tackled, nothing will function efficiently ever.

Re:The Largest US Trading Partners All Put Higher Tariffs on... by zip1234 on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:15AM (#17716598)
How does taxing the well-off to pay for education encourage investment?
Re:The Largest US Trading Partners All Put Higher Tariffs on... by gremlinsinc on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @02:10PM (#17718051)
More education = higher jobs for more people = more people have money = more people spend money at walmart/amazon/malls/movies/local restaurants/etc... Some of these people will use their money to start businesses.

Some of these people may have ended up in a poverty trap all their lives, and never contributed. One may even go on to end cancer, or do something amazing with the extra opportunity they now have.

Education ALWAYS contributes to society as a whole, not just that individual. America needs to start valuing education more, I see dumbasses on social media and elsewhere who don't fact check anything, believe everything they're told and can't even tell which side of the civil war Lincoln was fighting on.

They are the same people Jay Leno used to make fun of by asking simple questions on his Jay Walking bit.

Re:The Largest US Trading Partners All Put Higher Tariffs on... by wpietri on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @04:55PM (#17719392)
Well, it might indirectly do it depending on the tax structure. That's why the capital gains tax is lower than general income tax, for example.

But I'm thinking we would use the money to more directly encourage investment. Small business programs are good here, including classes, mentoring, and small-business loans.

Re:The Largest US Trading Partners All Put Higher Tariffs on... by s73v3r_ on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @12:17PM (#17717153)
An increased supply of high skill workers? An increased supply of people who are economically secure, and thus not interested in "eating the rich"?
Re:The Largest US Trading Partners All Put Higher Tariffs on... by mrguyorama on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:35AM (#17716775)
Publicly paying for education is one of the most fundamental kinds of investment in society