Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero Impact on Crime

Re:Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero ... by arcticbull on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @02:26PM (#17709201)

Canada is not on path to copy the US when it comes to gang violence, unless you have some numbers to back that up. Yes, it's gone up lately, back to levels 10 years ago, while overall criminality and especially gun crimes have gone down. Please find some evidence to compare rate changes between the US and Canada. [1]

You should really look at the numbers. The rape rate in the US is 17X Canada. Murders 3X. And the US age of criminal responsibility is SIX?! [2] It's pretty clear whatever system you advocate for isn't working.

[1] https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/7-charts-that-tell-the-s...

[2] http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Canada/Unit...

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Re:Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero ... by astura on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @11:26AM (#17716691)

The "age of criminal responsibility" is extremely misleading. There is no uniform "age of criminal responsibility" in the US, each state is different and each law is different, and the site you posted fully acknowledges that[1]. Prosecutors also have a very heavy amount of leeway in this realm.

[1] DEFINITION: The age at which a person is no longer excluded from criminal liability. The lowest age is indicated for countries where there isn’t a single age limit, for example where different states have different regulations (such as the USA) or there is different limits for boy and girls (such as in Iran). The spectrum is specifically wide for the USA and Mexico (both 6-12 years). Several US states do not stipulate any minimal age for criminal responsibility at all.

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Re:Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero ... by arcticbull on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @03:34PM (#17718742)

At no point whatsoever is a 6 year old criminally responsible for anything - and you can tell, because they're 6. This is what a 6 year old look like? [1] This feels apologist - prosecutors should have zero leeway in this matter. States where there isn't one are even worse IMO.

[1] https://www.momjunction.com/articles/gift-ideas-for-6-year-o...

Editing since I can't reply: I may have misread your reply to mine, I reacted because in my mind, that there's a range or discretion is irrelevant because it's so far out there in the first place. Cleaned it up to be less pointed, to better line up with my intent and hopefully yours.

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Re:Study Finds Increased Incarceration Has Marginal-To-Zero ... by astura on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @03:38PM (#17718767)

Excuse me? Please read the comment you are replying to; I did not say a six year old should be criminally responsible for anything or anything of the sort.

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