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Re:Women Die More from Heart Attacks Than Men Unless ER Doc ... by bduerst on Monday August 06, 2018 @07:37PM (#17702706)
Isn't this Ageism? There are tons of 20-year experience engineers who are better than 2-year experience engineers. Yes, there are outliers, as with any normalized population, but typically years of experience in a skilled field correlates with ability to do the job well.
Re:Women Die More from Heart Attacks Than Men Unless ER Doc ... by gammateam on Monday August 06, 2018 @11:51PM (#17703741)
The person above wrote that there exists in a subset of engineers that have 20 years of experience, a group of engineers that are not better than engineers in a subset that have 2 years of experience

It was offering perspective, not a blanket statement about the entire set

That isn't ageism.

Re:Women Die More from Heart Attacks Than Men Unless ER Doc ... by bduerst on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @04:59PM (#17710754)
Again, there are outliers in a normalized population. Assuming that it's an entire subset without evidence is bias, i.e. ageism.

Simply being a perspective doesn't shield it from being biased.

Re:Women Die More from Heart Attacks Than Men Unless ER Doc ... by gammateam on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @05:57PM (#17711233)
What form of evidence would you like?

I don't see the difference with the exact opposite of the statement (ie. that some engineers with more work experience are in fact better than others with less work experience), aside from the potential novelty. How would you prove that statement, so that someone else could prove the opposite. Are you saying that in outliers shouldn't be considered at all, when they are in fact a subset of a population? If so then you missed the point that someone above was talking about outliers and that was the only observation made.

Alternatively, is your stance that there is no difference to claim something is ageism if it is directed at an older population or a younger population? that noticing that older experienced engineers would also fit the criteria for ageism against a younger population making this whole conversation moot?

Re:Women Die More from Heart Attacks Than Men Unless ER Doc ... by nv-vn on Monday August 06, 2018 @07:51PM (#17702782)
It's just as ageist to assume that a young person doesn't know anything
Re:Women Die More from Heart Attacks Than Men Unless ER Doc ... by meowface on Monday August 06, 2018 @08:33PM (#17702966)
Not really, since they had less time to learn and experience things.
Re:Women Die More from Heart Attacks Than Men Unless ER Doc ... by slavik81 on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @03:32AM (#17704503)
Many prejudices are justifiable as statistically likely. The problem is that even though you may be right most of the time, you will unfairly disadvantage the people you were wrong about.
Re:Women Die More from Heart Attacks Than Men Unless ER Doc ... by na85 on Monday August 06, 2018 @10:55PM (#17703577)
How is that ageism? Being experienced simply does not equate to being skilled. It is correlated but some people, irrespective of age or experience, just aren't as good at $task than other people.