Re:Microsoft announces NuPack, a new package manager for ope...
by snprbob86 on Friday October 08, 2010 @06:04AM
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I worked for Microsoft doing VS integration for XNA Game Studio. As someone who had access to both the VS source and several VS internals experts, I too was kinda defeated by the VS extension API.
Re:Microsoft announces NuPack, a new package manager for ope...
by regularfry on Friday October 08, 2010 @07:22AM
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Good to know it's not just me, then :-)
I was all enthused when John Lam did a demo of scripting Visual Studio with IronRuby (I don't think it was his work, he was just demoing it), so I sent him an email asking after the source, but it turned out not to be something they were going to release. Which was a shame. He did make it look awfully slick.
Re:Microsoft announces NuPack, a new package manager for ope...
by snprbob86 on Friday October 08, 2010 @04:25PM
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Kinda.
VS2010 has a new, WPF-based shell/editor. That brings along many new .NET-based integration points and mostly obsoletes the old editor APIs. They've also improved the plugin-loading architecture and several other things. However, do do any meaningful integration, you still need to code to the poorly documented COM APIs. The project system, for example, hasn't changed much at all since VS 6.
Re:Microsoft announces NuPack, a new package manager for ope...
by kesselborn on Friday October 08, 2010 @06:16AM
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Yeah ... finally a new packaging system. I think it's always good to start a new packaging system as there are only about 5 gazillion ones out there. A least they have enough sources they can look at when they run in the same problems that everybody else has run into before.
Writing a new packaging system seems to be the new Hello World.
It's still in active development but, from demos I've seen if it, it looks very good. It seems to cover far more use cases than NuPack and has an elegant design.
Re:Microsoft announces NuPack, a new package manager for ope...
by WesleyJohnson on Thursday October 07, 2010 @10:20PM
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I don't really follow Mono, but I've been seeing tweets tonight regarding support in NuPack for mono being worked on and changes being pushed to CodePlex throughout the day.
I tried to get started building something similar a couple of years ago, but the VS extension API kinda defeated me.
I was all enthused when John Lam did a demo of scripting Visual Studio with IronRuby (I don't think it was his work, he was just demoing it), so I sent him an email asking after the source, but it turned out not to be something they were going to release. Which was a shame. He did make it look awfully slick.
VS2010 has a new, WPF-based shell/editor. That brings along many new .NET-based integration points and mostly obsoletes the old editor APIs. They've also improved the plugin-loading architecture and several other things. However, do do any meaningful integration, you still need to code to the poorly documented COM APIs. The project system, for example, hasn't changed much at all since VS 6.
If you're interested in this space, you'd do well to check out @serialseb's OpenWrap: http://serialseb.blogspot.com/2010/07/intro-to-what-openwrap...
It's still in active development but, from demos I've seen if it, it looks very good. It seems to cover far more use cases than NuPack and has an elegant design.
http://nupack.codeplex.com/SourceControl/list/changesets
Isn't that what .NET is all about?