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Re:YouTube, Apple and Facebook Ban InfoWars, Which Decries '... by mc32 on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:01PM (#17700578)
I dunno. I am not a fan of conspiracy theorists who continuously spread information known to be false; however, the reason posted is problematic: “we want everyone using facebook to feel safe”. Sorry, but feeling safe is very contextual, imprecise and can change from setting to setting. Insofar as “glorifying violence”. Let’s see how they come down on censoring holywood blockbuster movies. Let’s see how sincere they are about that.
Re:YouTube, Apple and Facebook Ban InfoWars, Which Decries '... by mikeash on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:03PM (#17700611)
Do you need a precise definition to know that a lunatic who incites harassment and death threats toward shooting victims is on the wrong side of the line?
Re:YouTube, Apple and Facebook Ban InfoWars, Which Decries '... by mc32 on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:10PM (#17700696)
I do think they need to be more precise. And they need to address both sides, both extreme right and extreme left conspiracists who incite violence. But the current language is very vague and only emboldens people seeking censorship and coddling.
Re:YouTube, Apple and Facebook Ban InfoWars, Which Decries '... by mikeash on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:16PM (#17700765)
I think they should come up with a precise definition, but that’s hard and I see no reason to wait for that when presented with someone who obviously crosses the line.

This feels like yet another instance of programmers applying a programming mindset to human problems. When presented with an instance of a problem, we want to solve the general case. That’s fine for code but often falls flat for people. If somebody is doing something terribly wrong, it’s ok to look at the individual case while you figure out how to handle it in general.

Re:YouTube, Apple and Facebook Ban InfoWars, Which Decries '... by Brockenstein on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:16PM (#17700758)
> And they need to address both sides, both extreme right and extreme left conspiracists who incite violence.

Who says they don't? Every time a right wing nut gets chopped you need an equivalent pound of flesh from the left? This just seems like whataboutism to me.

>But the current language is very vague and only emboldens people seeking censorship and coddling.

People always seek whatever they want, it doesn't mean they will get it. Sort of like how you're seeking absolute fairness in equality in corporate censorship. Good luck...

Re:YouTube, Apple and Facebook Ban InfoWars, Which Decries '... by mc32 on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:20PM (#17700797)
Its not whataboutism. If police in some latam country mostly gets its “mordidas” from foreign tourists, and complaining it mostly happens to tourists is not whataboutism toward the locals.
Re:YouTube, Apple and Facebook Ban InfoWars, Which Decries '... by Brockenstein on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:12PM (#17700712)
Well there's no way they can word this sort of action that appeases everyone. Yeah, the way stated in your post does sound pretty lame and overly PC.

> Let’s see how they come down on censoring holywood blockbuster movies.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, seems apples and oranges to me. I think in this case safe means, "we're not going to tolerate bigoted assholes anymore". Not try and adhere to everyone's possible definition of safe.

Re:YouTube, Apple and Facebook Ban InfoWars, Which Decries '... by mc32 on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:16PM (#17700763)
The blockbuster reference is about glorifying violence. I mean, if we belive movie portrayal on film has an effect on real life (you know, ‘40s movies show aggressive machismo, etc., to we need more equal representation) then we agree that Holywood promotes violence.
Re:YouTube, Apple and Facebook Ban InfoWars, Which Decries '... by tootie on Monday August 06, 2018 @05:18PM (#17701863)
That's slippery slope again. You're saying we can't collectively deride Nazism because we're suppressing political speech. We can. Easily. Alex Jones is not a literal Nazi, but he is equivalent. Demonizing groups of people based on absolutely fabricated nonsense. We can safely excise his voice without losing a single reasonable voice.