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Re:Periodic fasting starves cisplatin‐resistant cancers to d... by PerfectElement on Friday August 03, 2018 @12:00PM (#17680925)
- the diet of Okinawans is irrelevant because they are not eating the refined carbohydrates that we do

I think you missed the point the parent was making. No one is forcing you to eat refined carbohydrates. People conflate carbohydrates with "refined carbohydrates" and end up thinking that eating a bowl of brow rice, lentils and veggies will make you diabetic because "carbs".

Re:Periodic fasting starves cisplatin‐resistant cancers to d... by geomark on Friday August 03, 2018 @10:58PM (#17685131)
Depends a lot on the type of rice. A couple of rice varieties have a higher glycemic index than pure glucose. A lot of people where I live are diabetic and don't understand why because they don't eat sweets. But they do eat large amounts of jasimine rice and Thai sticky rice; both have GI > 100.
Re:Periodic fasting starves cisplatin‐resistant cancers to d... by GordonS on Saturday August 04, 2018 @12:16PM (#17687396)
Even how much you cook the rice affects it's glycemic index - al dente rice has a lower GI than soft rice (same deal with pasta)
Re:Periodic fasting starves cisplatin‐resistant cancers to d... by 738472527784 on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:59PM (#17701197)
OP said brown rice...
Re:Periodic fasting starves cisplatin‐resistant cancers to d... by triviatise on Friday August 03, 2018 @04:07PM (#17683190)
they dont keep you full like protein does. Eating high protein moderate fat, low (not zero) carb reduces hunger to nothing for fasting.
Re:Periodic fasting starves cisplatin‐resistant cancers to d... by cageface on Saturday August 04, 2018 @01:32AM (#17685520)
Many carbohydrates have a higher satiety index than beef does, for example. Potatoes and oats are both more filling than a steak.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f...

Legumes are high in carbohydrates and protein and are extremely nutritious and filling.

Re:Periodic fasting starves cisplatin‐resistant cancers to d... by GordonS on Saturday August 04, 2018 @12:20PM (#17687414)
Sorry, but I very much doubt this - potatoes have a very high glycemic index (sometimes higher than that of straight glucose!), so you will have a blood glucose crash shortly after eating them, causing you to feel hungry.

I have reactive hypoglycemia, and potatoes are something I strongly avoid for this reason (they will cause me to hypo as soon as 30 mins after eating them).

Re:Periodic fasting starves cisplatin‐resistant cancers to d... by cageface on Sunday August 05, 2018 @11:34AM (#17691817)
Glycemic index and insulin response are two different things. Both can be measured directly in the blood and aren't a matter of opinion or anecdote.
Re:Periodic fasting starves cisplatin‐resistant cancers to d... by GordonS on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @10:17AM (#17706802)
I was responding to your post about satiety, not insulin response?

Eating potatoes causes your blood sugar to rise rapidly. When it falls, it invokes a feeling of hunger. Blood glucose can be measured directly in the blood, and isn't a matter of opinion or anecdote :P

I was suspicious of the results, so I just downloaded the paper that your link refers to - low and behold, it has this at the end:

"This study was supported by a competitive investigator-initiated grant from the US Potato Board"

Well, what a surprise!