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Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by thebooktocome on Thursday August 02, 2018 @02:39PM (#17674204)
> It also failed to mention that home inspections are largely useless.

According to whom?

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by VBprogrammer on Thursday August 02, 2018 @02:50PM (#17674305)
I'm not an expert but I'd tend to agree. There are simply too many things which can't easily be inspected without causing damage.

We paid over £1000 in two different inspections when we purchased our house. Since moving in I've discovered that the entire extension to the house was built without lintels, electrical work which is not even close to complient and brickwork which is little more than rubble.

The structural engineer said he was unable to determine whether the lintels were sufficient (because they were hidden behind plaster and face bricks) and he said that there is some evidence of electrical rewiring but that we should commission a report into that.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by TheOtherHobbes on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:40PM (#17674798)
IMO house surveys in the UK are a joke and surveyors are a wildly overpaid joke profession. A typical survey, even a "full" survey, is 90% disclaimer. The remaining 10% is often obvious to anyone with working eyeballs.

If you want a useful opinion hire an experienced builder to assess the property - perhaps under the pretext of costing possible renovations.

When I was selling my mother's house a few years ago, a builder who viewed it instantly spotted all the problems that professional surveyors either missed or couldn't be bothered to mention.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by vorpalhex on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:08PM (#17674511)
I've used inspectors on both of my home purchases, and both times it was a major lifesaver. The first one caught that the house had a leveling issue (and had us bring in a foundation repair company to measure) and the second one caught a dead heater and a hole in the roof.

That being said, I always hire my own certified home inspectors. Both my spouse and I have enough understanding to know when an inspector is blowing smoke and when they are looking at a real issue, and we monitor them while they do the inspection. A home inspector can't go into details on an issue - that isn't their job - they are only there to tell you what experts you need to call in during your option period.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by ams6110 on Thursday August 02, 2018 @02:55PM (#17674362)
It's the sort of business with low barriers to entry, and very few repeat customers. Ideal for scammy and fly-by-night operators.
Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by jandrese on Thursday August 02, 2018 @02:50PM (#17674304)
A lot of times it comes down to conflict of interest. They are hired by the agent who is only interested in selling the home and getting the commission.

Even when they aren't, finding a reputable one who will actually do a good job is extremely difficult. Most are just looking to run through a house as fast as possible and collect their fee. There isn't some directory of problems they've missed. As far as I know there isn't any way to recover costs from them over issues that they missed and caused you to buy a home that you would not have given the problems. This makes them quite prone to being a rubber stamp and yet another fee for home buyers.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by LeifCarrotson on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:04PM (#17674463)
You're correct that if they have a conflict of interest, they are definitely useless.

Don't hire the agent's inspector. Likewise, make sure you have your own agent, don't use the seller's. And if you're in court someday, don't expect one lawyer to represent both parties. Simple stuff.

It's similar to buying a car: don't ask the dealer's maintenance department whether it's a good car. Drive it to your independent mechanic on the test drive and ask them to take an unbiased look at it.

If you don't know a reputable home inspector, you could ask your painter, contractor, or handyman if you have a good relationship with someone who knows houses to take a look.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by jandrese on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:10PM (#17674533)
Of course if you're a first time homebuyer who has been previously renting you won't have any relationships with painters, contractors, or handymen...
Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by davidp on Thursday August 02, 2018 @02:59PM (#17674415)

  They are hired by the agent
You can and absolutely should hire one yourself. Additionally, if you have a buyer's agent, don't make the mistake of using theirs either -- the buyer's agent has the same conflict of interest that the seller's does, despite the fact that in most cases they have a fiduciary responsibility to you, the buyer.

Another complication to be aware of: Inspectors can face "blackballing" by banks or realtors if they scuttle too many deals by finding bad things. If you find an independent inspector, don't balk at paying a little more -- they may need it to make up for business lost from being honest.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by dragonwriter on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:22PM (#17674650)
> Additionally, if you have a buyer's agent, don't make the mistake of using theirs either -- the buyer's agent has the same conflict of interest that the seller's does

Not exactly. Real estate agents do care about repeat business and referrals.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by smileysteve on Thursday August 02, 2018 @02:55PM (#17674368)
> As far as I know there isn't any way to recover costs from them

My home inspector had a 1 year warranty on anything that he tested in his report. Does that mean the company will cover all damages or buy the property from you, no; but it is a small disincentive to be a rubber stamp.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by jandrese on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:03PM (#17674452)
I bet you would find that his report is worded carefully to not include anything that would be expensive to repair.

And really, the most expensive repairs are on things you can't see. Wiring. Plumbing. Damage to the structure of the house.

Even then I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to weasel out of for example your roof started leaking 2 months after you move in. The inspector will point out that there was no water damage when he inspected it so the issue developed after the inspection.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by dmschulman on Thursday August 02, 2018 @02:58PM (#17674407)
The buyer has every right to find and hire their own home inspector...
Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by jandrese on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:06PM (#17674487)
Sure, but do you know which one is going to do his job properly? This is knowledge that very few personal home buyers have. Professional house flippers/real estate speculators might have guys they know, but shopping around as an individual there is precious little information available on how good a particular inspector is.
Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by dmschulman on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:22PM (#17674649)
https://www.yelp.com/c/la/home_inspectors

Also friends, family, coworkers, local real estate agents you trust, etc.

Going into the entire home buying process without preparing adequately is the buyer's first mistake.

Re:Almost 70% of Millennials Regret Buying Their Homes by jandrese on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:33PM (#17674741)
> real estate agents you trust

The buyer's second mistake.