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Re:MIT proposes to Reinvent the 737 for 70% greater fuel eff... by feilipu on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @09:20PM (#1766501)
This is all missing the point. And is a typical case of solving the problem with a "bigger hammer".

China is building a national rail network running at 350km/h to with the goal of putting any city within an 8 hour travel radius of Beijing. http://www.globalissues.org/news/2010/09/30/7114

Kind of makes domestic air travel somewhat obsolete and really quite unnecessary.

Re:MIT proposes to Reinvent the 737 for 70% greater fuel eff... by enjo on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @10:29PM (#1766633)
Why is rail travel inherently superior to air? Every spot in the continental U.S. is already well within 8 hours of...everywhere.
Re:MIT proposes to Reinvent the 737 for 70% greater fuel eff... by ardit33 on Thursday October 07, 2010 @04:39AM (#1767226)
for short to medium distances it is:

1. Much more comfortable (wider seats, more luggage space, etc)

2. A lot more convenient. No taking off shoes, check points and lines. Plus the chances are a train station would be a lot closer to the center of the city, rather than an airport.

3. Cheaper and less pollution.

E.g. If the CA High Speed Rail got build, it would take about 2.5 hrs. from downtown SF, to downtown LA. By plane it is about 50mins. BUT, you should add the time it takes for check in check out (at least 45mins), then the time to travel to the airport themselves (30 mins with Bart, if you live in SF), etc. If High Speed Rail would have been implemented throughout most of the major cities of US, It just wouldn't make sense to fly for short and medium distances. Coast to Coast, yes, coast to Midwest yes, SF to LA or LV, probably not.

Re:MIT proposes to Reinvent the 737 for 70% greater fuel eff... by ryana on Thursday October 07, 2010 @10:54AM (#1768021)
"2. A lot more convenient. No taking off shoes, check points and lines. Plus the chances are a train station would be a lot closer to the center of the city, rather than an airport."

I would imagine that the first part would change as rail became a more traveled medium, thus making it a more attractive target for terror attacks.

However, having train stations closer to the city centers than out in the suburbs would be great.

Re:MIT proposes to Reinvent the 737 for 70% greater fuel eff... by cstross on Thursday October 07, 2010 @12:49PM (#1768426)
There have already been terrorist bombing attacks on high speed rail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV_accidents

It turns out that high speed trains are a lot more robust than planes: the failure mode is usually "soft", i.e. the train comes to a halt safely and damage is confined to one carriage (unlike an airliner). To inflict mass casualties (e.g. 7/7, Madrid) attackers target either busy subway systems at rush hour (7/7) or busy transport terminals with lots of people (Madrid). It's worth noting that both 7/7 and the Madrid bombings involved large suicide teams and multiple bombs -- but killed fewer people than a typical airliner bombing.

Re:MIT proposes to Reinvent the 737 for 70% greater fuel eff... by feilipu on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @10:34PM (#1766647)
Ah... you can get up and go to the bathroom during "take-off" is one of the main reasons that come to mind.

But, there are may others relating to carbon footprint per tonne.km traveled, which have greater relevance.