Re:Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change
by agumonkey on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @08:47AM
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What about vegetal roofs ? not strong enough ? because there's a huge surface area to tap into.
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Re:Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change
by LeifCarrotson on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @09:17AM
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The surface area of a roof is tiny in comparison to planting miles and miles of forest. It's also very weight sensitive, but the goal is to capture, remove, and continuously replace a huge mass of solid carbon. Finally, green roofs select succulents and other plants that grow slowly, but for this goal you want a species that grows like a weed and produces literal tons of biomass that have to be trucked away and be buried.
The "plant trees for charcoal" idea is basically the bio-engineering method of "build huge photovoltaic solar plant, use electric energy to power chemistry to convert CO2 to oil". Photosynthetic plants are pretty efficient, compared to silicon solar cells, and they're (literally) dirt cheap.
Re:Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change
by agumonkey on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @09:18AM
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but it's also quite close to CO2 pollution since a lot of emission are in cities (low efficiency use of ICE I believe)
Re:Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change
by zaarn on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @09:09AM
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The global CO2 production dwarfs what you could do with trees, I'm fairly certain even if we planted a tree on every square centimeter available, it would not be sufficient to counter our production sufficiently.
What we need is to invest in technology to reduce CO2. Nuclear fusion/fission, solar, wind, electric or alternative fuel cars, redesign CO2 industry processes, etc.
The petrol and coal industry would have to go entirely bankrupt. No exceptions.
Re:Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change
by agumonkey on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @09:31AM
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If you understand French, there's an engineer called Jean-Marc Jancovici who is deep into the 'nuclear is the only solution so far'. He made talks on youtube on how to decarbonate economies.
Re:Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change
by zaarn on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @10:19AM
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I don't think nuclear will be the only solution, solar and wind may be useful in a post-fusion-energy world.
Re:Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change
by agumonkey on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @10:36AM
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his point is that by looking at numbers, solar and other renewables are orders of magnitude off from being enough. With today's energy consumption of course. If we change our ways, models can be remade.
Re:Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change
by adrianN on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @09:03AM
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Just having the biomass is nice, but the crucial step is turning it into charcoal. Roofs also don't produce a lot of biomass per area.