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Re:The Bullshit Web by TeMPOraL on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @05:18PM (#17657253)
Another wild thing like this is what you'll notice when you read up on Lisp machines. We had development environments in the 70s/80s that would seem magical today.
Re:The Bullshit Web by Joeri on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @05:15AM (#17660843)
I’m reading the book valley of genius where the xerox parc people basically make the same argument. The Xerox Alto’s smalltalk environment still isn’t matched today and the PC experience is much weaker for it.

The problem with those kinds of environments (where everything is editable at runtime using highly expressive langiages) is they assume everyone is a power user and there are no malevolant actors trying to mess up your machine. That’s not what the modern landscape is like.

Re:The Bullshit Web by rickycook on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @10:25AM (#17662746)
kinda so did reasonably modern ideas. take active desktop for example! sure it’s more high level, but i believe the quote is that they wanted websites to do “cool things” with the desktop. cringeworthy by today’s standards...

things get more locked down as we develop abstractions that we have more control over

Re:The Bullshit Web by dri_ft on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @05:31PM (#17657390)
It's heartbreaking.
Re:The Bullshit Web by Gravityloss on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @01:15AM (#17659894)
Shows we are not limited by technology but somehow get distracted by other things.
Re:The Bullshit Web by scroot on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @08:26AM (#17661831)
The "other things" are the short-termism and appealing to the lowest common denominator that go with the pursuit of profit before anything else.