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Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by cwkoss on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @02:51PM (#17655921)
Scott Aaronson posted about this on his blog

https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3880

I like his update - a message to Hacker News commenters:

"On the Hacker News thread, some commenters are lamenting that such a brilliant mind as Ewin’s would spend its time figuring out how to entice consumers to buy even more products that they don’t need. I confess that that’s an angle that hadn’t even occurred to me: I simply thought that it was a beautiful question whether you actually need a quantum computer to sample the rows of a partially-specified low-rank matrix in polylogarithmic time, and if the application to recommendation systems helped to motivate that question, then so much the better. Now, though, I feel compelled to point out that, in addition to the potentially lucrative application to Amazon and Netflix, research on low-rank matrix sampling algorithms might someday find many other, more economically worthless applications as well."

Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by tensor on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:28PM (#17656263)
That seems a bit passive aggressive. I don't think economical value is what is in question, but rather the social impact of the application (or lack of positive social impact).

Applications can be both economically valuable and have positive social impact. Now recommender systems are in fact useful to discover new things, not just to entice people to buy more. E.g. finding new music, related research, or other things.

Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by jholloway7 on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:45PM (#17656404)
The tone of his comment seems to me he's just frustrated a community of programmers took the conversation down the path of debating the merits of recommendation systems rather than exploring the more general applicability of the algorithm in other problem spaces.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by wilg on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @04:44PM (#17656929)
I agree with him. Half the time you'll enter an HN discussion and the most upvoted comment will an unrelated bikeshedding discussion.

Usually one of these:

- "I love the idea but can we talk about how the website doesn't look good when CSS is disabled?"

- "25MB of JavaScript? Really? You know, websites used to..."

- "This website is impossible to read because the contrast ratio is too low and I am personally offended."

- "Did anyone else get an ad from this news website? Why does advertising exist?"

- "An obscure open source project uses the same name as this unrelated business. Have you no shame?"

- "The website looks weird on mobile, by which I mean my rooted Android phone running Opera."

- "The text is too big."

- "The text is too small."

Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by MadcapJake on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @05:01PM (#17657089)
When did "comment" transition into "thought-provoking well-defended essay"? Is there no water cooler talk on the internet anymore? I find interesting tidbits and interesting tangents here on HN and I appreciate it all!
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by Asquil on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @06:11PM (#17657720)
I think the "most upvoted comment" part is important here. Tangents are indeed good to have, but I don't think they should occupy the most visible parts of the comment section.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by KaoruAoiShiho on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @06:41PM (#17657939)
OMG this is so true. Should be a HN bingo.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by Torgo on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @08:40PM (#17658656)
Contrast ratio is an accessibility issue. One of these things is not like the other.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by dagenix on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @10:31PM (#17659188)
Very true. But all the same, when I see an article with about 25 comments, click on it, and see that the text has poor contrast, I know exactly what all those comments are going to be saying. Probably nothing about the article at all. The first comment will be about how the site is hard to read - which is a very legitimate complaint. And then the next 24 will be complaining about the design of every other random website under the sun.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by wruza on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @08:22PM (#17658552)
Good part is that they visit the link at all.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by shawn on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @06:45PM (#17657971)
That is in fact why the mods boot many of the most-upvoted comments to the bottom of the thread. I think it’s incorrect to say that half the time you’ll see such comments at the top.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by jonathanyc on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @04:45PM (#17656936)
That’d be like criticizing the development of calculus because it could be applied to the development of atomic bombs. This is first and foremost a mathematical result. When people come up with a new algorithm for the orienteering problem it’s not primarily because they want to be better at orienteering; the same applies here. Your comment is well-written and almost totally irrelevant.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by ccostes on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:59PM (#17656545)
I chuckled when I read it and took it as tongue-in-cheek.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by 8bitsrule on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @12:37AM (#17659722)
Funny!

It's as though we moderns are all grazing in a 100-acre meadow that's been grazed for two centuries. The easy stuff is gone. Even the magic beans are rare. The question is: with your magnifying glass, which seeds do you look at in hopes that they're nutritious?

One of my college advisors muttered, and I quote, "Einstein wasted 30 years of his life" (looking for a unified theory). Well now. Sadly, this advisor put graphite on paper for a whole career with little to show for it (apart from employment).

Mr. Nobel's name is -not- still recognized because of his economically worthy applications. And it's lucky for Kelvin that he invented a temperature scale.

Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by Alex3917 on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:25PM (#17656245)
This result is really a benefit for startups building on Filecoin-type platforms, not for FAANG companies that are already at scale. Reducing the barrier to creating good recommendation algorithms is an import step in re-democratizing the web.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by HiroshiSan on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:12PM (#17656114)
note that this was reference to a previous HN thread.
Re:Teenager Finds Classical Alternative to Quantum Recommend... by posterboy on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @10:00PM (#17659055)
It's a satirical pun. "More economic" - "more economic what?"