‘Lopping,’ ‘Tips’ and the ‘Z-List’: Bias Lawsuit Explores Harvard’s Admissions

Re:‘Lopping,’ ‘Tips’ and the ‘Z-List’: Bias Lawsuit Explores... by zimablue on Monday July 30, 2018 @06:23AM (#17643404)

This is just classism dressed up as racism. People who don't want to enter the upper middle class and have strong extracurriculars are just the already upper middle class/upper class. The professions like law/medicine are what the lower classes shoot for, trying to be a journalist or a political player is the domain of the higher classes.

"These people work too hard for too low aspirations, we need more people who work less hard but have higher aspirations"

Those people are the rich and powerful.

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Re:‘Lopping,’ ‘Tips’ and the ‘Z-List’: Bias Lawsuit Explores... by leetcrew on Monday July 30, 2018 @08:33AM (#17643964)

ivy league educations are obviously a very scarce good. is it really so wrong to want to limit the amount of unambitious professionals they matriculate?

i was a smart enough kid that i probably could have done well academically at an ivy league school, but the whole time i was in college i knew i had no loftier goals than just getting a nice job as a software engineer and enjoying my time after work. there are hundreds of good state schools that do a great job preparing you for this kind of life if you put in the work. a spot at a school like MIT would honestly have been wasted on me, even though i was likely "smart enough" to be there.

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Re:‘Lopping,’ ‘Tips’ and the ‘Z-List’: Bias Lawsuit Explores... by extra88 on Monday July 30, 2018 @08:59AM (#17644083)

I don't think that's always the case but the important distinction is classism is legal, racism isn't.

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Re:‘Lopping,’ ‘Tips’ and the ‘Z-List’: Bias Lawsuit Explores... by golergka on Monday July 30, 2018 @06:33AM (#17643437)

I description is very precise, but the tone implies a value judgement - is it intentional?

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