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Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by davidw on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @08:05AM (#1763559)
It's not just people from the US who read English, you know. Here in Europe, you often find people from two different non-English speaking countries conversing in English because it's what they have in common.

I think it's ultimately a bit of a caveat emptor situation though: if they're not going to publish their rules in English, it means you're likely to get screwed.

Which is to be expected from a dictatorship run by a guy who dresses like the Beatles on the cover of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts club band.

Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by semanticist on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @08:21AM (#1763595)
For the record: I'm not American, and while I don't self-identify as 'European', Scotland/the UK is considered part of Europe.

I know that it's a lingua franca, and that there is a certain expectation that important information online will be in English - but even as someone who only speaks/reads English I think that's an unfair and unreasonable expectation.

Regardless of country, if you can't read and understand the rules/signage, you'd better have a 'native guide' or you're going to do something wrong and not understand how to put things right. That's as true for Libya/.ly as it is for Germany/.de or China/.cn.

Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by zumda on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @08:55AM (#1763688)
So sum it up: If you don't know a rule, it still applies to you. If you register a domain in Libya you have to play by their rules and it is your responsibility to try and understand them.
Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by jacquesm on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @09:11AM (#1763737)
And they reserve the right to make up more rules on the go.

I think that's the most important bit here, even if you understood the rules and had them translated and you abided (sp?) religiously (in this case that is to be taken literally it seems) by them, you could still lose your domain.

So building on a .ly is building on quicksand, and likely that goes for a whole bunch of other tlds.

Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by conover on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @11:14AM (#1764249)
The concept of strict liability comes to mind.
Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by davidw on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @08:29AM (#1763615)
> That's as true for Libya/.ly as it is for Germany/.de or China/.cn.

I think that you're a lot less likely to run into 'oddities' in Germany than you are in China or Libya.

Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by semanticist on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @08:37AM (#1763627)
I think you're more likely to run into rules printed in English in Germany, but that aside every country has their quirks. It really wasn't that long ago that Germany and France were having a go at Yahoo! over Nazi imagery that was hosted on their services, or for sale on Yahoo! Auctions.

60+ years after the end of the war, it might not be immediately obvious, especially to an American used to 'first amendment rights', that your web page with screenshots from Wolfenstein 3D is possibly illegal.

And that's just an 'oddity' that I, someone who has never even been to Germany, know about.

Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by ern on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @11:46AM (#1764411)
Another "oddity"- Germany also has/had strict laws about using foreign academic credentials, that have tripped up visiting academics: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,540459,00...
Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by ErrantX on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @08:45AM (#1763651)
Think again; German rules for these things are different from UK/US rules (and other European nations) in several significant ways.

Particularly in relation to their data protection rules (for example).

Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by davidw on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @08:52AM (#1763668)
Sure, rules differ, but someplace like Germany, you can be pretty confident that things will go through some kind of due process that can be navigated. In places like Libya, I would not really bet a lot of money on that.
Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by ErrantX on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @08:54AM (#1763685)
Well, maybe.

But you're also running a huge risk because if they find you in violation the fines start to get nasty. We had a client in the UK that was providing hit/redirect statistics, including full IP addresses, to German clients. Under the rules that is illegal - they were fined in the region of millions of euros for it.

Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by mkr-hn on Wednesday October 06, 2010 @10:47AM (#1764109)
Germany's privacy laws are known and probably available in multiple languages. The concern here is that you might not know the law either because you can't read it, or it only exists when the government wants it to.
Re:The .ly domain space to be considered unsafe by konad on Thursday October 07, 2010 @04:13AM (#1767176)
> it only exists when the government wants it to

every law is applied like that