Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud contract

Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by throwaway180728 on Saturday July 28, 2018 @01:06PM (#17633966)

Another thing to consider is how Oracle structures it’s ULA (unlimited license agreements).

Oracle explicitly does not allow companies to cerify their software on AWS.

So just think about how much Oracle software the pentagon runs.

It’s hugely compelling to not go with AWS because Oracle won’t cerify nor grant you a license if your certify your ULA on AWS.

Financially alone might dictate going with Oracle Cloud over AWS. Regardless of which cloud service is technically better.

https://www.itassetmanagement.net/2018/06/12/are-you-sure-yo...

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Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by dev_dull on Saturday July 28, 2018 @01:39PM (#17634126)

It seems likes there’s a lot of good reasons for oracle to get a chance apart from the wapo stuff.

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Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by gowld on Saturday July 28, 2018 @03:24PM (#17634540)

Giving competiomtors chances is great. But we need more competition than Kodos and Kang. The government should be promoting wide competition and open protocols and interop to avoid lockin.

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Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by qubax on Saturday July 28, 2018 @07:33PM (#17635619)

Or given their budget, why not operate their own cloud? Why not build a tech/infrastructure team and run their own datacenter/cloud? You would think something so important as data and the cloud would be something the pentagon wants to keep in-house.

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Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by Retric on Saturday July 28, 2018 @09:57PM (#17636089)

Fewer kickbacks if you operate inside the government.

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Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by manigandham on Sunday July 29, 2018 @10:15PM (#17641587)

You need serious talent to accomplish projects at that scale, and most of that talent does not (want to) work for the government.

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Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by joejerryronnie on Saturday July 28, 2018 @11:14PM (#17636318)

Because it would cost the government $100B to do it themselves.

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Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by kirbypineapple on Saturday July 28, 2018 @06:13PM (#17635342)

It's unfortunate (and likely economically sensible) that most cloud providers dont offer Power hardware. Running Oracle on Power systems is probably the only reason anyone still runs AIX these days, nd many orgs haven't gone to the cloud because of huge Power/AIX footprints. Even without a ULA in play, licensing on Power systems is significantly more attractive than running on Intel when it comes to Oracle.

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Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by mr_toad on Saturday July 28, 2018 @10:13PM (#17636132)

Is the software to create a public cloud on Power chips a thing? Can Xen run on power? Or OpenStack?

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Re:Tech companies can now bid on the Pentagon’s $10B cloud c... by microcolonel on Sunday July 29, 2018 @08:03PM (#17641142)

I know OpenStack/KVM is up and running on Power, not sure about Xen.

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