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Re:How did Google get so big? by hellllllllooo on Friday July 27, 2018 @03:18PM (#17628479)
One example: By preventing phone manufacturers who use Android and Google services from also selling phones with other operating systems they are killing the opportunity for another phone OS from gaining traction.

We could have missed out on the opportunity for something better than Android being developed and we'll never know. It's called dumping; flooding the market with something free to kill competition and make sure Google is in the majority of hands in Europe.

Re:How did Google get so big? by trishume on Friday July 27, 2018 @11:09PM (#17631305)
If I'm not mistaken, they contractually limited manufacturers from selling devices with Android forks, according to Google to avoid experience fragmentation.

AFAIK the terms didn't limit any other operating systems not based on Android.

Re:How did Google get so big? by maym86 on Saturday July 28, 2018 @02:26AM (#17631872)
Yep actually I retact part of my original comment. Thanks for the correction.

The dumping part is still valid because any OS that isn't free and relies on licencing can't complete with an OS that makes it money from a secondary business like search and advertising.

Google gave away Android to make sure it dominated mobile advertising. Any OS reliying on profits directly from licencing the OS cannot complete.

Re:How did Google get so big? by sievebrain on Saturday July 28, 2018 @07:58AM (#17632775)
Your comment is still false. Google allows Android forks with their services installed. You just can't break the API, which makes sense, otherwise apps from the store wouldn't reliably work.
Re:How did Google get so big? by maym86 on Saturday July 28, 2018 @12:24PM (#17633780)
No, the dumping part is valid. Free OS with free services to kill competition.
Re:How did Google get so big? by charleslmunger on Sunday July 29, 2018 @11:40AM (#17638660)
Wouldn't this line of thinking mean all open source code just dumping? The linux kernel, with lots of its development done by either volunteers or employees of companies who use it, is also given away for free. How can a paid licensed OS compete with what is essentially a co-op of developers across organizations giving the code away for free?

Is Firefox also dumping, since it's available for free, funded by donations and the default search provider?

Re:How did Google get so big? by maym86 on Sunday July 29, 2018 @12:07PM (#17638787)
This only becomes an issue when you are a monopoly as this is when it hurts the consumers ability to choose alternatives. If Android truely is the best option let the customer decide without trying to stifel competition.

Firefox and Linux don't work to stop competition in the same way. Neither care if manufactures provide other options or flavors and Linux especially has commercial forks like OSX and Android.

Re:How did Google get so big? by orteam on Friday July 27, 2018 @11:34PM (#17631365)
This is false. Samsung and others made Microsoft phones as long as it was a viable alternative. Google restricted others to prevent a split of their own platform - Android.