Re:The secret call to Andy Grove that may have helped Apple ...
by JudasGoat on Thursday July 26, 2018 @09:16AM
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It seems from this discussion that the skills needed to be successful in buisness inovation are in opposition to those I find needed to have a sucessful and happy life. Honesty, compassion, life/work balance. Is there a good exception to that rule?
Re:The secret call to Andy Grove that may have helped Apple ...
by hhas01 on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @05:24PM
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This is business.
Know your worth, do not undersell yourself, learn by others’ errors, and always—ALWAYS—get it in Writing.
Re:The secret call to Andy Grove that may have helped Apple ...
by eropple on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @06:53PM
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"This is business" excuses shitty behavior.
If the most important thing to you is not to be decent to others, you live poorly.
Re:The secret call to Andy Grove that may have helped Apple ...
by scarface74 on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @07:05PM
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Don’t take it as condoning the action of Jobs, but accepting how the world is and act accordingly when you’re on the other side.
Knowing that the lion is not going to be fair to you, means you need to run from the lion and not sit there and get eaten.
Re:The secret call to Andy Grove that may have helped Apple ...
by eropple on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @07:41PM
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I understand how it works, and I am comfortable with my criticism of that post. Dismissing criticisms of "what the world is" allows the bad parts to flourish. The status quo does not capes.
Re:The secret call to Andy Grove that may have helped Apple ...
by scarface74 on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @07:58PM
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To use another aphorism....
“Once the avalanche has started, the pebbles don’t have a vote”.
The bad parts are going to flourish regardless....
Re:The secret call to Andy Grove that may have helped Apple ...
by kashyapc on Thursday July 26, 2018 @01:29AM
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We get how this works. You say you don't condone his wretched behaviour, but keep writing these "aphorisms" and sound bites which imply that "you can't do much about it". The bad parts will flourish if you let them.
The fundamental point remains: do your damn best to be decent to other humans; don't make excuses.
Re:The secret call to Andy Grove that may have helped Apple ...
by SmellyGeekBoy on Thursday July 26, 2018 @07:02AM
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There are plenty of businesspeople in my circle at least who are decent people who wouldn't dream of doing this to a partner or even an employee. As an owner of a small business I include myself in that group. Being an asshole isn't "business" - it's just being an asshole.
More people who blindly worship Jobs should learn about these back stabbings as well.