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Re:Knative – Kubernetes-based platform to manage modern serv... by jacques_chester on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @12:22PM (#17602487)
I've been around Knative for a few months on behalf of Pivotal (our blogpost here[0] and TheNewStack here[1]). Other leading contributors are IBM, SAP and Red Hat.

Subject to my biases, what would people like to know?

[0] https://content.pivotal.io/blog/knative-powerful-building-bl...

[1] https://thenewstack.io/knative-enables-portable-serverless-p...

Re:Knative – Kubernetes-based platform to manage modern serv... by evankanderson on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @12:29PM (#17602583)
Re:Knative – Kubernetes-based platform to manage modern serv... by jacques_chester on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @12:35PM (#17602633)
Re:Knative – Kubernetes-based platform to manage modern serv... by yebyen on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @05:41PM (#17605189)
Hey, glad to see you again!

It looks like I have some more catch up to play, I see a rails logo on this page...

I emailed you a couple of days ago or yesterday about the Ruby support in Riff. There's not a PR yet but we got Ruby into a working state again! It looks like not a lot of people are interested in Ruby on serverless platforms.

Can you shed any light on why? And what kind of Ruby support can I expect from knative, given that it's not apparently coming from the Riff project now... as a Rails dev who wants to use this stuff today, how do I get started?

(It has a Rails logo on the page linked by the post, so I assume I can use it now, but I haven't gone deeply enough to see if there are limitations... I'm used to Ruby support being neglected in the serverless areas, I don't know if it's because we Ruby devs are slacking, or there's a fundamental flaw I haven't seen yet, or what...)

So, what can you tell me about that Rails logo on the landing page?

Re:Knative – Kubernetes-based platform to manage modern serv... by jacques_chester on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @05:53PM (#17605272)
Yes, I'm sorry I didn't reply to you -- I was caught by the problem that I knew this was imminent but not being able to say so (or even hint so).

> It looks like not a lot of people are interested in Ruby on serverless platforms. Can you shed any light on why?

I imagine there's some mix of market demand and path dependency. A lot of folks who like experimenting moved onwards to the Node ecosystem and a lot of FaaS work has happened there. Meanwhile enterprises are heavily invested in Java and .NET.

The riff team at the moment is pretty small. One thing coming up is to fold buildpacks into the code->running pathway for riff. This should make it easier for the riff team to get out of the business of supporting particular ecosystems and for some of the engineering work for buildpacks to be shared amongst multiple setups.

In terms of starting with Rails today, it should be possible to use the buildpacks BuildTemplate to run the existing Ruby buildpack. I don't know if it's working, it's early days for heavy automation of development on Knative itself.

Re:Knative – Kubernetes-based platform to manage modern serv... by yebyen on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @06:09PM (#17605358)
Awesome! That's totally understandable, your non-response was actually a hint that you were up to something, so it's good to see what it was. So I'm not that surprised to find you here in this discussion.

I'll check it out in more detail when I'm back in front of a computer! Glad to see the rails logo somewhere new, too.

Re:Knative – Kubernetes-based platform to manage modern serv... by caniszczyk on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @12:23PM (#17602501)
what's happening to riff? https://github.com/projectriff/riff
Re:Knative – Kubernetes-based platform to manage modern serv... by jacques_chester on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @12:26PM (#17602534)
Project riff members have been deeply involved for months. Basically, we'll move up the stack to use Knative as the base layer for riff.

It's nice because we get to share some of our work with the wider community.

The riff team have a more detailed post: https://projectriff.io/blog/announcing-riff-0-1-0-on-Knative...