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Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by tptacek on Monday July 23, 2018 @11:08AM (#17593254)
If you have to ask, get the super cheap ones; you probably aren't going to use any of the features on the expensive ones (like the nanos and the Y4s).

You will read lots of people talking about the cool things they do with their Y4s, but really they're just doing it because they can, not because there's a well-thought-out security benefit they're getting (I'm as guilty of this as anyone). 95% of the benefit of a security key is simply U2F.

Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by tytso on Monday July 23, 2018 @11:26PM (#17597903)
I use Yubikeys to store my GPG and SSH private keys. This way even if my laptop gets 0wned, the attackers won't be able to get my private keys. It basically is a more convenient form factor then using a Smartcard (which was how I had previously stored by GPG / SSH keys).
Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by GordonS on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @06:35AM (#17608222)
Is there any simple way to keep SSH keys synced across multiple keys?

I have 2 laptops and an Android device, so if I was to start using these things it would be convenient to keep my private keys available across them all.

Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by ehsankia on Monday July 23, 2018 @01:31PM (#17594274)
I don't think it's so much about features, but I do think there's a huge difference between having a nano and a normal sized one, especially on a laptop.

Being able to leave it in instead of having to take it out of your wallet and plug it in every time makes a big difference in usability, which in turn makes it much more likely that you'll want to use it everywhere.

Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by tptacek on Monday July 23, 2018 @02:03PM (#17594503)
It's funny because I see it the opposite way: the problem with the nano is you'll want to leave it in all the time, which reduces your practical security. I go out of my way to keep the security key on my physical keychain; I don't even like leaving it in my bag, where it might get stolen along with the computer.
Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by joshuamorton on Monday July 23, 2018 @04:48PM (#17595837)
What's the threat model this protects against?

(In other words, what's better about having the security key being on your keychain vs. be a permanent part of your computer)

Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by tptacek on Monday July 23, 2018 @06:14PM (#17596462)
I am less likely to lose both at the same time as I am to lose just one, and you'd need both of them to get access to accounts.
Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by ehsankia on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @12:13AM (#17598070)
What do you mean you need both? The two in 2-factor is password + ubikey, not laptop + ubikey.

If someone gets your laptop with ubikey inside, they can't do anything without your password. And the whole point of a physical second factor is to basically limit the 99.9% of the people (mostly from other countries and cities) that have no physical access to you from hacking you.

Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by tptacek on Tuesday July 24, 2018 @12:25AM (#17598106)
It's "Yubikey", not "ubikey". The Nano and Y4 keys do more than U2F; they also generate and store RSA keys. They aren't just 2FA devices; they're also small HSMs.
Re:Google: Security Keys Neutralized Employee Phishing by GordonS on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @06:38AM (#17608231)
If I have access to someone else's laptop with a nano key plugged into it, can I access all the SSH key files stored on the key, or are they also protected from access somehow?