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Re:A used voting machine from the 2016 election by specialist on Friday July 20, 2018 @11:45PM (#17580590)
I think you're describing the opscan machines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_scan_voting_system

Doug Jones is the recognized expert on these particular systems.

http://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/voting/optical/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_W._Jones

Of all the available and proposed systems, opscans are the least bad, for the USA. (Better would be manually counted ballots, but that'd require some unpalatable changes to be feasible.)

If I was king, I'd require open source (hardware & software), hardwired to boot off a WORM media (eg mini CD-ROM). The media would be purpose burned per election, enumerated and notarized, and their physical chain of custody guaranteed, to be warehoused for future inspection.

The tabulation would be RAM only, with a report printed when the polls close.

Source: Election integrity was my issue.

Re:A used voting machine from the 2016 election by facing_worlds on Saturday July 21, 2018 @12:50AM (#17580737)
I like the ram only aspect but I wonder if the risk of losing all that data in a power disruption is worth it? Seems like it would make a temptimg target for "accidents" in areas where many people vote a certain way and some group wants to disrupt this process. Voting in the US is already a huge ordeal of waiting in line for hours, a lot of those people probably can't / won't come back to revote if the volatile memory erases the machine data.
Re:A used voting machine from the 2016 election by specialist on Saturday July 21, 2018 @04:50AM (#17581314)
Just rescan the ballots.

The only truthworthy system is built on mutual distrust (checks & balances). For instance, while I was a poll inspector, everything required two participants, representing both sides. And all actions be done in public.

Re:A used voting machine from the 2016 election by speedplane on Saturday July 21, 2018 @04:55AM (#17581325)
Every secure system is going to rely on some source of trust. Wheather that’s certificate issuers for SSL, a non-biased Judge, or the trust of the developers working on the bitcoin protocol, trust doesn’t just emerge purely from systems, there is always some root source based on societal norms.
Re:A used voting machine from the 2016 election by masonic on Saturday July 21, 2018 @04:21AM (#17581230)
If you were king, there wouldn't be voting in the first place.
Re:A used voting machine from the 2016 election by Jetrel on Saturday July 21, 2018 @06:41AM (#17581550)
Actually, just for kicks, you might find it interesting to know that quite a few historical monarchies were essentially democracies with extremely limited enfranchisement. A setup where - instead of having a bloody "game-of-thrones" civil war to decide the king - they instead had a large body of nobles vote on the king, was actually pretty common.

In fact our Electoral College, as a name, comes from one of these - during the medieval age, in the western heartland of europe (vaguely covering parts of france, switzerland, germany, italy), there were a bunch of little fiefdoms led by nobles who banded together into a big federation called the Holy Roman Empire. They all collectively voted on which noble would become Emperor, and it took several hundred years before one family was able to bend it into being hereditary.

Re:A used voting machine from the 2016 election by masonic on Saturday July 21, 2018 @03:57PM (#17583556)
I disagree that you can call any situation with such limited enfranchisement a "democracy".
Re:A used voting machine from the 2016 election by SahAssar on Saturday July 21, 2018 @01:27PM (#17582780)
This is basically still the case in the Vatican, Malaysia and Cambodia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy#Current_uses
Re:A used voting machine from the 2016 election by taejo on Monday July 23, 2018 @04:40AM (#17591384)
I guess the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain and Sweden are just dreams. I suspected something might be up with Belgium, but I had no inkling about the others.