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Re:Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much F... by JacobJans on Friday July 20, 2018 @03:53PM (#17578353)
I wouldn't draw very many conclusions from that study.

The study itself says:

> This was an observational study where people chose whether or not they wanted to run; therefore there is always the possibility that people stopped running because they had knee pain.

That's a pretty big flaw in their study.

Re:Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much F... by loeg on Friday July 20, 2018 @05:06PM (#17578943)
Sure. It's just provided as an example of a source. The comment it responds to provided no evidence for the claim made.

> > This was an observational study where people chose whether or not they wanted to run; therefore there is always the possibility that people stopped running because they had knee pain.

> That's a pretty big flaw in their study.

How do you figure? These people are accounted for in the data. Regardless of why people stopped running, they have better outcomes than never-runners. E.g.:

> Any history of running was associated with less frequent knee pain (table 2) in the unadjusted and adjusted models compared to those who never ran.

Re:Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much F... by thr0awaz on Friday July 20, 2018 @04:01PM (#17578435)
knee pain isn't the same as joint problems.

All runners who run regularly will eventually develop knee or ankle pain. It's sort of normal for semi-serious distance runners to own a pair of crutches. I'm not saying all of them, but, if you need a pair of crutches, ask your friends who run and one of them will have a pair.

But, your knee can hurt for a while without it turning into joint problems.

> This was an observational study where people chose whether or not they wanted to run; therefore there is always the possibility that people stopped running because they had knee pain. As such, we cannot comment upon the influence of compulsory running on overall knee health.

so... forced running might cause osteoarthritis. But, if you feel like going for a run and it doesn't hurt, it's not going to cause joint problems.

> Our study findings add to the existing literature by including a large sample within which we were able to assess the influence of running in people who participated in running for shorter amounts of time and perhaps stopped running in a cohort that had high quality of assessments of symptoms and standardized radiographs. We found that runners in this group were not at a higher risk for symptomatic knee OA.

Re:Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much F... by gamblor956 on Friday July 20, 2018 @04:18PM (#17578571)
That's weird...I know hundreds of runners ranging from their teens to their 70s and only two of us own crutches. I have a pair because my brother broke his knee playing basketball and left them at my place. Another runner has a pair because a car hit her while she was biking and broke her leg.
Re:Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much F... by thr0awaz on Friday July 20, 2018 @04:23PM (#17578617)
Weird. Must just be the people I know then?

Overuse injuries got a bunch of people I knew. They'd use crutches to speed recovery up a bit, or to get around if it was bad enough.

Re:Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much F... by mulletbum on Wednesday July 25, 2018 @08:40AM (#17608773)
Why do you guys survey your friends for crutches?