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Re:Uber drivers “employees” for unemployment purposes, NY la... by scarface74 on Friday July 20, 2018 @02:07PM (#17577375)
The other side is not innocent either. It’s called “regulatory capture”. The entrenched interests - the taxi companies - have a vested interest in the status quo.

It’s similsr to the auto dealers preventing Tesla from selling directly.

Re:Uber drivers “employees” for unemployment purposes, NY la... by will_brown on Friday July 20, 2018 @03:16PM (#17578009)
The taxi companies were operating under a certain regulatory framework...it’s easy to “disrupt” the industry is you break the law while others are complying with the regulatory frame work.

Consider if a new “start up” pharmacy started selling drugs without prescriptions...then claiming the existing pharmacies aren’t innocent and have a vested interest in the status quo. It’s easy to “disrupt” when you ignore the law.

You also gloss over this idea...no taxi driver is breaking the law and gets arrest purely for doing what they were hired to do. Uber hired drivers and fed them rides in jurisdictions where the activity was illegal. It’s those drivers with criminal records who have paid the price not Uber, that’s Uber’s current vested interest shifting legal liability for their illegal business activities to their drivers.

Re:Uber drivers “employees” for unemployment purposes, NY la... by scarface74 on Friday July 20, 2018 @03:24PM (#17578085)
A regulatory framework that they lobbied to keep so they could provide inferior service and keep their investments in medallions high. Those laws only served taxi companies.
Re:Uber drivers “employees” for unemployment purposes, NY la... by will_brown on Friday July 20, 2018 @04:47PM (#17578773)
No it doesn’t only serve them...it also serves consumers and the general public.

Licenses, safety standards of vehicles, insurance, rules and regulations of the road. Yes, these things do make the barrier to entry more difficult, but they also serve the public good.

Any time you see a car just stopped in the middle of the road with it’s hazards on odds are it’s a Uber driver. I can’t tell you how often I encounter dangerously hazardous Uber pick ups and drop offs that violate the law, because these drivers have no training.

And just as quickly as Uber was happy to violate and break laws to gain their market share and become the industry incumbent, they too are now spending millions on lobbying efforts to reinstate all the same regulatory frameworks (licenses, insurance, vehicle standards) to close the door behind them.

Re:Uber drivers “employees” for unemployment purposes, NY la... by neuralRiot on Friday July 20, 2018 @04:22PM (#17578604)
Both sides have their share of guilt, taxi licenses cost over 1M in some jurisdictions as the previous post said it's easy to "disrupt" a market when you have $0 cost to start. If i started selling liquor in my garage i'm sure i could do it at a much lower price than the local bar all while earning more money, I don't it will last too long however.
Re:Uber drivers “employees” for unemployment purposes, NY la... by scarface74 on Friday July 20, 2018 @04:32PM (#17578673)
The alcohol distribution racket also suffers from regulatory capture....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-tier_system_(alcohol_dis...

Re:Uber drivers “employees” for unemployment purposes, NY la... by will_brown on Friday July 20, 2018 @04:51PM (#17578810)
It does...but it’s doesnt justify a “tech start up” being able to raise billions because they found a market in illegally manufacturing and selling alcohol.

You are basically justifying someone like al Capone who found a huge market for alcohol distribution during prohibition. The law may have been wrong, but you don’t celebrate the criminal, criminal activity and bodies left in the wake.