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Re:Inside China’s surveillance state by throwfrijuly on Friday July 20, 2018 @01:54PM (#17577258)
No he's definitely right. The US drone program has a social credit kill list [1]:

> In 2014, former CIA and NSA director Michael Hayden said in a public debate, “We kill people based on metadata.”

> According to multiple reports and leaks, death-by-metadata could be triggered, without even knowing the target’s name, if too many derogatory checks appear on their profile. “Armed military aged males” exhibiting suspicious behavior in the wrong place can become targets, as can someone “seen to be giving out orders.” Such mathematics-based assassinations have come to be known as “signature strikes.”

> “When I learned about signature strikes, that was incredible,” Faisal says. “If the criteria is being armed or having a beard – that is everyone in Yemen.”

1. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/how-...

Re:Inside China’s surveillance state by nabla9 on Friday July 20, 2018 @10:13PM (#17580378)
To argue that US is worse than China, you should first compare US to China, not just list what US does.

Chinese concentration camps and black jails are at the level of WWII era horrors. They disappear people around the world just by sending made up arrest request and taking them to China.

Re:Inside China’s surveillance state by notveryrational on Friday July 20, 2018 @10:23PM (#17580398)
US:

Drone assassination program, kills based off metadata score.

Global rendition and torture program. Largest prison population on the planet, exhibiting UN criticized torture, forced sterilization.

China:

Has no drone assassination program. Does not kill based off metadata score.

National rendition program.

Re:Inside China’s surveillance state by nabla9 on Saturday July 21, 2018 @08:20AM (#17581751)
> Does not kill based off metadata score.

Tortures, disappears, organ harvest, forced rendition from foreign countries based on mass and metadata in thousands or tens of thousands peer year (ethnicity, gender, number of foreign phone calls, or family members outside country). People in concentration camps are executed "on demand" in order to provide organs to recipients.

Re:Inside China’s surveillance state by notveryrational on Monday July 23, 2018 @12:22PM (#17593745)
China does not do that. You've abused terminology in order to try to make the argument fit, post factum.

But at least your argument has a strong thesis.